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Passed out on the Lawn
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Georgia
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as do i.
for once during an election im ecstatic. the sad thing is, im already hearing people talking about weather he will get shot or not. fucking georgia. ![]()
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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I'm happy Obama won but I didn't like his speech at all.
His use of pathos makes it really hard for me to take him seriously. I don't like it when a politician appeals to people's emotions instead of their logic and I don't think it's a good foundation for a presidency. Also I believe he's overrated as a speaker as he seems lost without a teleprompter. I wasn't fully convinced of his performances at the debates. If you look at his speech today you can see that his view always moves from one teleprompter to another, he never looks straight forward. I realize that it's not easy to speak freely under such circumstances but McCain did much better in my opinion. |
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Kiss of Death
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Perpetual wind and sorrow
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Mccains Speech was tight, just wish he would've dropped the Lincoln quote from AMerican History X, thought it would've gelled better than Obama's usage.
Cheers to Obama, didn't vote for him, respect the man, respect the office, interested to see where the next two years will take us. Hoping against hope the Dems don't get 60 in the senate. Was amazed at how Rove talked on Fox. Anybody else think Jesse Jackson was trying to garner too much attention with his crocodile tears on the tube???
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Bringing a Chill to the Tropics
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Lion City
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Is it just me or does this feel like a populist win? There are celebrations in the streets. There seems to be a lot of ownership in this win.
I don't recall seeing this sort of reaction before (for either Dem or Rep wins).
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Southern England
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Join Date: Apr 2003
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this is the first time I felt like I was voting for someone instead of 'lesser of 2 evils' and as a speaker felt like I was listening to an honest, smart adult rather than a sleeze
who knows what'll happen. with the market jump tomorrow ? will banks ease up and lend ? yep, party in the streets of seattle. never saw that either
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eats puppies and shits rainbows
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: An Area of Space Occupied by a Population, SC, USA
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I'm still moving to Canada.
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: The Space Coast
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I couldn't be happier.
For those who don't get the crocodile tears and the emotion, think back to JFK or ask your parents. ![]() When a majority of Americans and every other country on our globe see a man who can take this country back to a place it hasn't seen in years (a little pride, maybe?) it evokes a lot of emotion. I'm sure we'll read many articles and view many pieces on this, but Jesse Jackson and millions of others were in tears last night. It's difficult to believe this has really happened and blacks and those who backed him with passion realized the burden that's on his shoulders already. We should all be crying tears of joy and tears of fear. He's a brave man to tackle such an impossible agenda.
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Leaning against the -Sun-
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: on the other side
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I believe that given the choices, surprisingly, the better choice was made. So congratulations to Americans for that.
I will reserve my judgment for when Obama actually starts calling the shots and effecting changes. But I think he's alright. Well done. It is clearly an historic moment for the US, to have its first African-American President. Whether that is or should be relevant or not is another story.
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Whether we write or speak or do but look We are ever unapparent. What we are Cannot be transfused into word or book. Our soul from us is infinitely far. However much we give our thoughts the will To be our soul and gesture it abroad, Our hearts are incommunicable still. In what we show ourselves we are ignored. The abyss from soul to soul cannot be bridged By any skill of thought or trick of seeming. Unto our very selves we are abridged When we would utter to our thought our being. We are our dreams of ourselves, souls by gleams, And each to each other dreams of others' dreams. Fernando Pessoa, 1918 |
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Ontario, Canada
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No idea about how effective Obama will be, but it's hard not to think he won't be an order of magnitude better than the train wreck that has been the USA for the last 8 years under the worst president you lot ever had.
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Submit to me, you know you want to
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Lilburn, Ga
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Im wondering if there is anyone in Scotland that wants to adopt me
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Mulletproof
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Some nucking fut house.
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I see the results of this election giving people hope. I sincerely wish that the people will take this hope and turn that inspiration into real action on a community level and not expect this man or the office to provide a solution to the problem we are facing today and in the future.
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: chicago
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it is the morning after the election.
what seems clear is that the defeat is bigger than the victory. i watched faux news for a while last night after the results were clear. it was like visting a funeral parlor. they were holding a wake for their business model. this is reason to be cheerful. i have no problem with folk who are conservative, but i have had a Big problem with the kind of conservatism that was front and center during the last 8 years. that conservatism has encountered its waterloo. and it was entirely of it's own making. it'll be interesting to watch what happens with the republicans over the next year: they are in a difficult position. i hope they remake themselves, remake their language in particular. i feel as if there is reason to think that things may be less barbaric. there is reason to think that the united states will not find itself a banana republic in 2 years. there is reason to think that perhaps a more humane form of capitalism might be created, a more rational global order. there is reason to think that maybe the benefits of these will reach more people, and produce a system that is more just, if only because there will be space in national politics to talk about things like social justice. i do not think obama is a solution. i just think he is more open, more curious about the world, less ideologically blinkered. in a rapidly changing situation, we do not need another ideologue. there are a host of problems that he will run straight into. the principal thing that will carry this new administration into these problems will be a kind of bump, a brief grace period in the context of which problems that otherwise would be intractable will hover in the air. i think there will be a period during which much of the world will say "hello. we've been waiting for sanity to come back to the states." what matters is what happens after that. but for the moment, i think this was a big big deal, this is a big deal. i feel like the car i am in, which i am not driving, is backing away from the edge of something Very Bad. that is my main emotion. relief for its own sake. a feeling that, despite everything, we didn't hit the wall.
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Psycho
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: TN
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What a night... I'm glad it's over and glad of the outcome, now I just hope that he can DO what he promised.
I really felt for McCain last night, hell the guy had my vote in 2000 before he got "Rick-Roved" in the primaries. I'm not sure who if anyone is to blame, but the major flaw in the McCain campaign was not letting McCain be McCain. He did set the stage for Palin as the new star of the GOP...should be interesting... |
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Psycho
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Sweden - Land of the sodomite damned
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Awesome. Wife cried a little when Obama won (Oh you Americans and your emotions). Feels like the US has a chance of being respected in the world again. Congrats guys and gals.
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You had me at hello
Join Date: May 2004
Location: DC/Coastal VA
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Mark Warner was the first election called by CBS. Congratulations on your new shade of color, Virginia!
McCain's concession was tremendous. It makes me wonder what would have happened if McCain was allowed to run as McCain. I have a feeling the SNL spot and the speech were moments when he said, "ef you guys, I'm going to say what I want to say." Cal Thomas is chief idiot of America. In a world with Billy Cyrus, that's saying a lot. The GOP is going to have to get their shit together from here on out. Stop the bowing to the religious right and embrace the crunchy cons. Quote:
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Junkie
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Ontario, Canada
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"The people have spoken ... the bastards!"
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: South Carolina
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yea, we had fireworks here... and you know, i was really kinda flat about the election till i heard obama speak and saw the different quality...Seriously, i don't know if i have ever been this happy voting.... amazing. as for the market, they already priced in the obama transition, honestly, and will likely sell off a bit till the end of the year/he takes oath. the market is funny that way. The dollar, however, jumped when obama was announced (against hte euro)
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Grumpypants
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Virginia
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I'm extremely pleased with how the vote went.
I look forward to the next four years.
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