Halx

Can we use this thread to compile articles that tell about the reaction from the voters who vehemently denounced Obama? They probably voted for McCain because of religious or racial beliefs and they now find that there is someone running the country who they have grand misconceptions of. What is their reaction?

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Paq

i don't have articles, but the gym where i teach has some VERY upset people. From the 'did you see this attack' thread..the lady in question was in wailing the other day, tears streaming and just utterly distraught at what was going to happen to her country. Actually, my facebook status updates are about as telling as anything.."I'm wearing out my jeans from having to pray so much for this country over the next four years' and "wow, how can people be so stupid" and my fave, "I'm going to drink, quit my job and wait for my check now, thank you socialism"

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QuasiMondo

I have a few military friends still stationed in Okinawa, one of them was very upset and commented that he was glad that he won't be back in the US for another three years. It kinda disappointed me that his reaction was no better than upset Kerry supporters who threatened to move to Canada if he didn't win back in 04.

To be honest, the level of bitching and moaning from Republican supporters is disappointingly hypocritcal of them considering how badly they mocked Democrat supporters who were upset with the outcome of the 2000 election.

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Cynthetiq

I agree, it's all posturing and gesticulating.

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I wish everyone was as magnanimous as McCain, his concession speech was something.

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QuasiMondo

McCain's concession speech reminded me of the class act he truly is. It's unfortunate that he sold his soul to the devil so he could secure a Republican nomination. I can only hope that as he returns to his Senate seat, we can once again see his true maverick spirit that once made him the bane of the Republican establishment and help prevent his party's degeneration into mindless ideology without a purpose.

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RetroGunslinger

I'm seriously losing my mind with all of these people. All I ever hear or see is how this country is going to become a communist state or "how can you vote for someone who isn't a Christian?"

Sometimes this country just disappoints me.

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YaWhateva

I have a feeling the republican party is going to shun him because of this election season so I can totally see him going back to his wily ways in the Senate.

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Paq

i swear i used to like mccain and i hope this whole political season was just the "i'm going to do anything to win' coming out and not how he really is...i had a ton of respect for him up to the point this whole "i'm going to throw everything at obama and see what sticks' then the stupid little talking points stuff..and i'm really hopeful palin was someone else's idea..

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YaWhateva

I don't think anybody wants to take the blame for that.

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Seer666

If he had shown the same character Through the rest of the election as he did in his concession speech, I think he would have had a real chance. Well, that and had ANYONE other then Palin. That bitch is on the same level of scary as Ann Coulter.

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If only everyone who is threatening to quit their job to enjoy their free government money would actually follow through....

Halx

I'm looking for reactions from the people who really believed he was a Muslim. Who really hate black people. Who really thought McCain was God's candidate. Are there any articles out there?

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RetroGunslinger

I found this conversation on Facebook. Not an article, but real people with real thoughts nonetheless. I took out they're last names. Rachel's the one I know and thought was smarter than this.


On a related note, this is an ongoing debate I'm having about Prop 8 and really shows what these anti-Obama morons are like:

This is why I'm moving to Canada. People like this. They're going to give me a fucking brain tumor.

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smooth

I don't personally know him, but longtime politicians have been commenting that the speech is the McCain of 30 years they've long respected. Hope that answers some of that question; the other stuff, like personality quirks of being an asshole sometimes , seem to be the real deal but I'm an asshole when I feel cornered and losing and yeah can't hold that too much against the man personally.

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Frosstbyte

While you have found an exceptional group of misinformed people to debate with, I promise you you'll find more of the same in Canada. Unless your plan is to move somewhere in the wilderness, barter for goods, hunt for food and not otherwise interact with other people. Idiots are everywhere, and they're involved in politics everywhere. It's kind of part and parcel to democracy.

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roachboy

for whatever it's worth, i have nothing against mc-cain as a human being. like alot of folk have said, i do not think he was well-served by his campaign, which was in turn not well-served by being republican after 8 years of george w bush. but enough of mc-cain as a person appeared around the packaging to indicate that he is basically a good person, someone who might be interesting to have a beer with---in a public place, with an easy and graceful exit plan in place on all sides.

hell, i even had a sense of the gap that separates george w bush as a human being from george w bush the political package, whose policies i have opposed entirely from the outset, during the short press conference he gave yesterday. he was gracious and you could feel for the guy a bit, as you'd feel for anyone in a kind of wistful space at the end of a long run of doing something.

i know alot of folk who are conservatives--some of them i am quite close to and there's no jump between opposing the politics they believe in and thinking them bad people---that's one reason i focus so much on the language conservatives use, because it had boxed them in so tightly.

there are exceptions, of course. most of the mediocrities that populate conservative television and radio for example seem like genuinely vile human beings. limbaugh is maybe the smartest of them, and sometimes i wonder about what he'd be like to meet. but nitwits like hannity? not worth the time.

on the op, you can find a large harvest of conservative idiocy about obama here:
Republican Politics, Conservative Issues, Political Cartoons, Blogs, News, Videos, Talk Radio ? Townhall.com.
and here:
National Review Online

though the second is not as universally stupid as the first.

i wonder about sources for the really vile stuff, though.
anyone trawl about those regions of the net?
i have stuff to do at the moment--maybe i'll get to researching it later.
but it'd be better if someone who trawled these areas were to pick out the choicest finds.

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streak_56

Change brings on two things.... excitement or fear. I would agree that if you moved to Canada that there are people who are just as misinformed on any issue. People who oppose gay marriage, promote racism, religious hate... etc, but I find that you cannot make everyone happy. I live in the most conservative province (Alberta) change is scary here, but I find that people over time accept change. I'm unhappy with the reactions of people in the US and I would not welcome some of them living here just for the sake of escaping their president. McCain lost, was a class act, and start to embrace your new president.

Plus, I think most of the people who I've seen, didn't vote, yet complained the loudest.

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Baraka_Guru

I'm not sure if this counts...but it is certainly an interesting reaction from a loser:

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Amaras

Nader used to be a man of integrity. He said something in a stupid, attention whoring manner. He was given a chance to withdraw his statement and didn't. I view him with a great deal more skepticism from here on in, that fucking irrelevance that he's become.

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Manic_Skafe

I think he's still a man of integrity. Questionable choice of words? Sure. But his message was still spot on.

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Amaras

You are probably right. I'm just having a crisis in my hero worship for him.
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