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Posted 08-31-2009 at 06:05 PM by genuinegirly
Updated 08-31-2009 at 06:07 PM by genuinegirly

I expected this class to be a lot of work. But what I didn't expect is to deal with the other students' constant complaining about said work.

It's actually less time-intensive than I anticipated, and far more simple.
I keep telling myself that they'll stop complaining once they get into the swing of things. But then again, I did that last semester and it only grew worse as the semester continued.

I don't understand the lack of work ethic around here.
It's starting to get on my nerves. Maybe I will choose a different institution for my PHD. It's a good place to learn a diverse set of skills quickly, but I don't find it academically stimulating. Perfect for a master's, which is what I'm working toward at the moment.

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    Xerxys's Avatar
    Academicaly stimulating? What?!

    You shouldn't let other peoples negativity affect you. Perhaps this is bad advice seeing as I'm often alone. But if the place is a good place to learn and the teachers are supportive etc etc then this is a price you may have to pay.
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    Posted 08-31-2009 at 06:18 PM by Xerxys Xerxys is offline
    Updated 08-31-2009 at 06:22 PM by Xerxys
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    PonyPotato's Avatar
    Welcome to the Midwest.

    A lot of people around here are satisfied with mediocre. Try the East Coast if you want a stronger work ethic and more academically driven people - it's full of workaholics with really snazzy brains.
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    Posted 08-31-2009 at 06:27 PM by PonyPotato PonyPotato is online now
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    little_tippler's Avatar
    I know what you mean gg. I had to put up with that all through the academic part of my Masters and it was trying. In my case, it was really the right school, one of the best. It was actually the group I'd been lumped with that was the problem. :\
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    Posted 09-01-2009 at 01:07 AM by little_tippler little_tippler is offline
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    Plan9's Avatar
    Yeah, I every time I leave the cradle of civilization here in DC... I feel like I'm surrounded by idiots.

    Idiots everywhere make not-a-genius guys like me look all that more awesome.

    I can't believe I'm going to graduate with all these honors for doing nothing.

    You couldn't pay me to live in Ohio, Iowa, Illinois, Arkansas, Kansas, etc.
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    Posted 09-01-2009 at 08:04 AM by Plan9 Plan9 is offline
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    Baraka_Guru's Avatar
    Wow, that happens beyond the undergraduate level?

    I happily did my undergrad surrounded by people who didn't want to be there—well, they didn't want to be in class. They didn't want to read, they didn't want to discuss things, and in once class they didn't even want to watch films longer than an hour and a half.

    They didn't mind the socializing. But I did. It pissed the hell out of me because they took up all the space and so I couldn't find a place to read. And when I did, it was too noisy.

    Most people go to university because they "have to" not because they want to be there, not because they enjoy learning. It's a means to an end. It's sad, really. But now I know why only a small proportion of the population reads on their own volition anymore.
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    Posted 09-01-2009 at 08:11 AM by Baraka_Guru Baraka_Guru is offline
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    Oh man. There was one girl in a class I had this summer who was constantly trying to manipulate the instructor into lessening the workload. What made it especially rich was that said girl said she wanted to be a pediatric surgeon. WTF? I wanted to tell her that if you're already complaining about the workload in a 4-week summer class at the 300 level, you should really reconsider med school. Personally, I found the workload to be just fine, easy even--no papers, just lots of reading, four quizzes, a midterm, and a final--both of which were take-home. But I've found that there are many people in my program that think they shouldn't have to do reading or homework, which is just patently ridiculous, as they are crucial parts of getting an education. It drives me nuts, especially considering that most of the work in these classes is really easy compared to the stuff I had to do for my English degree. Methinks that if some of these people were to switch majors, they would cry.

    And Baraka, what you describe is exactly what happened in my nutrition lecture this spring. I stopped going because I couldn't hear what the instructor was saying. It's sad when other students turn a class into a waste of my time.
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    Posted 09-01-2009 at 08:19 AM by snowy snowy is online now
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    Baraka_Guru's Avatar
    Our culture is trained to pine over leisure and to loathe work. We look at work as a necessary evil rather than a major part of what makes us who we are.

    Living in Toronto, you see a huge variety. You should hear the stories of the students my SO teaches. Most of them are first- or second-generation Canadians from Asia (mostly China and India). It is a bit extreme in the other direction at times. I learned for the first time what a "Chinese F" is: anything below an A equivalent.
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    Posted 09-01-2009 at 08:27 AM by Baraka_Guru Baraka_Guru is offline
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    Yeah, I every time I leave the cradle of civilization here in DC... I feel like I'm surrounded by idiots.
    Funny how DC can give off both vibes from block to block.

    I've never understood the whole whining thing about work assignments in college. Whining about the cost of books banrupting us was common. Paying $50 bucks for little more than a pamphlet.

    This would be a good thread discussion.
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    Posted 09-01-2009 at 08:46 AM by Poppinjay Poppinjay is offline
 
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