How do you draw breath with your head so far up your ass?
Posted 05-30-2009 at 12:45 PM by The_Jazz
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This board has been slowly ebbing away, inch by inch for years. Part of that is because we've become accustom to each other - which is great most of the time - but at the same time we've built up immunity to the stench of each other's bullshit. It's time to clear the air.
If you're an oldtimer who doesn't post much any more because you got tired of getting yelled at because your honesty might hurt someone's feelings, do me a favor and give it another go. If you're politely honest about something, you're my new hero. If you can't do that, well, you're just as full of shit as I am.
If you're an oldtimer who doesn't post much any more because you got tired of getting yelled at because your honesty might hurt someone's feelings, do me a favor and give it another go. If you're politely honest about something, you're my new hero. If you can't do that, well, you're just as full of shit as I am.
ring, if you're stupid enough to think that I had any interest in punishing anyone, realize that I have the power to remove sources of irritation immediately and permanently. I don't do that because it would be wrong and abuse of my powers. I have no interest in do so. But since you're bound and determined to defend him from the Mean Old Nasty Administrator Who's Really A Coward At His Core, let me tell you what I've been up to for the last six weeks, sweatheart. I've been reading old, old threads, stuff most folks don't have access to unless they really look very very hard. I've been quitely emailing old members that we don't see much any more asking them why they don't even bother checking in any more. And I've heard back from some of them.
A few said that real life intervened. I get that. But a lot said that we became predictable. That we'd lost the edge. And some said that they had bad experiences with staff members or regular members, including the one some of you think I'm attacking.
I have nothing against him. I don't want to chase him off - if I did, I wouldn't be such a pussy about it, and he'd be gone already. That goes for about 30+ other folks that are part of the problem too. But they're not going anywhere either. This isn't a purge. This isn't a pogrom. Trust me, if I had any intention of starting either, this place would already look very different.
If you have an opinion, state it. Just be polite. And if you think I'm a coward, well, then my opinion is that you haven't been paying attention to this place or really have any idea of what's been happening the last few years. Maybe you should educate yourself first before you try to discuss something you've got no fucking clue about.
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These little personal tiffs aren't interesting to me. If members have issues with each other, I'm probably the last one to know unless I'm directly involved. I don't need to know, I don't want to know.
It's not relevant.
I still don't feel as though I've gotten a clear answer to what I'm wondering. I'm not trying to be obtuse, I'm just confused. Perhaps I've been one of the clique I keep hearing about but not noticing, and I've gotten special treatment; regardless, calling a spade a spade is what I've done for a long time here. You're the one who dubbed me crumudgeon, I believe, and it's a title I wear with pride to this day. In light of that, I fail to understand how exhorting people to be politely honest changes anything when, as far as I've ever been able to determine, we were free to act that way to begin with.
What's changed?
Perhaps in your research you've uncovered information that I don't have, or cannot access. I respect that, just as I respect the dedication that you and the rest of the staff show towards making this place the best it can be. Regardless of whether I agree with the decisions made, I do admire the intent. All of that aside, any information you may have is yours alone until you decide to share it. Perhaps you're not at liberty to do so, and that's fine too; but expecting everyone to understand your conclusions without access to the data you used to reach them seems a bit unrealistic to me.
For clarity, when I say Forum Drama I'm generally referring to any sort of interpersonal differences. I don't care one whit who's friends with who, who likes me or doesn't like me, or who gets to be popular. That's not why I keep showing up here. The Tilted Forum Project is a collection of personalities, and clashes are inevitable. What I like about it is that, with a few exceptions (which, as my own recent history shows, I'm not generally willing to tolerate) these personal differences don't flow out into the discussions themselves. I can have a meaningful dialogue regarding a variety of topics here, with a reasonable assurance that it won't degrade into personal attacks or vendettas. That's why I'm here, and my default position is to assume it's why most others are here. Within those dialogues, any bullshit claims tend to be dealt with fairly swiftly, and when it comes to personal stuff it's not relevant anyway. So I just don't understand where you're coming from.
I feel like I'm missing vast swathes of information here. My past dealings with you have always been quite pleasant, so I'm quite perplexed by this. You refer to your prior post as consisting of an example preceding your actual point. That's fine, and I see that. As has been clearly demonstrated, most all of the regulars know the score in regard to your choice of example and therefore it serves the purpose well. Which means that what I'm not understanding is the point itself.
Perhaps I ought to just let this go, but I'd really like to find some clarity on this if I can.Posted 05-30-2009 at 01:15 PM by Martian
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wow..you called me sweetheart, (in a polite way?)
and a splinter, (in a polite way?), and stupid, (in a polite way?)
and it seems like your finger
is hovering over the Vanquish button. (politely?)
Re-read your post please and see if it meets your own
prerequisite for politeness.
Perhaps we should talk about this later.
You seem pretty riled up, and I believe when things settle down,
we could have a more constructive go-round with this, okay?
You have made an assumption that I was bound and determined
to defend a someone. Not so. I am objecting to the method you used.
...and now..you just called him...(in caps) 'A Coward At His Core'
Polite?
can't you see the open worm can?Posted 05-30-2009 at 01:17 PM by ring
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Martian - I think that the reason you're not seeing my point is that you're not part of the problem, at least in my mind. In many ways, you ARE part of the core of this place. And you're the good part.
Honestly, I want people to pick up some of your "good habits" for lack of a better term. If someone posted that they're in trouble with their SO because they're too lazy to brush their teeth, you're one of the ones I know would deliver a lesson on dental hygiene.
But you'd probably be drowned out by folks telling them that they're just fine the way they are and not to cave into pressure. Extreme example? Hell no. We had that thread within the last 18 months. I changed details so it's not immediately recognizable, but some of you might remember it.
Ring, you need to reread my post. You've either missed parts or misunderstood parts. Who is the perceived Coward At Heart in my diatribe? I'm not attacking anyone - that's simple and easy and honestly a waste of my time. I'm attacking an attitude, one I've been more than guilty of copping for years at a time.
But yeah, it meet my standards. I threatened nobody. I insulted nobody, at least intentionally.Posted 05-30-2009 at 01:36 PM by The_Jazz
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I'm flattered that you think so highly of me. I mean that.
I've never noticed such persecution, myself. Perhaps I'm just too thick to realize it.Posted 05-30-2009 at 02:57 PM by Martian
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I'd like to nominate this as the best blog title ever.
Jazz, there are few blogs that I enjoy reading as much as yours.
I agree with Martian... I don't notice the persecution.... but with the caveat of "as much as in the past."
Be well.Posted 05-30-2009 at 06:59 PM by noodle
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I was mistaken on the caps, coward at the core, line.
I apologize for that.
I am not mistaken that you have called me stupid,
uneducated, and have no fucking clue.
Do you stand behind your request to call a spade a spade,
politely?
You say you have no emotional investment, in Will, (or these 30
nebulous Others.) Yet in the same sentence, you label Will,
as 'low hanging fruit'
I call bullshit.
I believe you are not telling the truth about your true feelings.
You declare you have the 'Power',
to vanquish, then you say "I really don't want to",
but it seemed important for you to let us know about your
erasure powers....in the first act of this charade.
You had no intention of 'punishing' anyone member?, with your original blog
listing all of Will's transgressions?
I call bullshit,
and I believe you are not telling the truth.
I have witnessed you and others,
in the past few months,
passive-aggressively, dogging Will.
The stench of resentment you and others have for Will,
has been so very obvious, in some posts, for months now.
Letting go of resentment,
is a great way to enjoy the art and practice, of mindfulness.
I need to remind my self of this, occasionally,
and sometimes, daily.
Resentment is a killer.
Let it go.Posted 05-30-2009 at 07:51 PM by ring
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I now present
this unrelated comment
in flattering
imitationPosted 05-30-2009 at 09:01 PM by Halx 
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Hey Halx,
I'm curious.
Why is that bloody some kind of animal in your avatar's
left hand all blurry pixeled?
Wasn't there some fake-like blood running
down the left leg in the original image?
What is the truth image?Posted 05-30-2009 at 09:25 PM by ring
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Its actually a severed head. It is censored because the artist is Japanese. They censor stuff.
You can find the original image by putting my avatar into that image search engine that was linked in GD a while back.Posted 05-30-2009 at 09:36 PM by Halx
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I always thought it was a cheerleader holding a pom pom. And I used to think Halx was a girl because of her avatar. Not for long, though.
Posted 05-30-2009 at 10:12 PM by ItWasMe
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*turns the conversation back to the blog post* Nicely written, Jazz.
Posted 05-31-2009 at 07:41 AM by Taja
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Huh. Resentment of will... Interesting. Wrong but interesting.
Why would there be ¤any¤ reason to resent him? Now I'm obviously singling him out in this blog comment but I honestly don't care or have an issue with doing so, but if I were going to resent someone it damn sure wouldn't be someone who fabricates an endless supply of bullshit for no apparant reason other than it gives them some sort of ego boost.
So if you see me in this "witch hunt" of passive agressive dogging, and it doesn't smell right then call it; but just make sure you're smelling the other specimens before you decide to call bullshit or resentmentPosted 05-31-2009 at 05:38 PM by guccilvr
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Truth is Gucci, I resent you ... for no apparent reason, it keeps me up at night, just thinking; how much I resent you.
No ring, no one resents will, we all make fun of him at every chance we can get relating to do with prostitution ... or if I just want to vent I pretty much blame him for everything but we don't resent/hate/dislike him.
Like Martian said, I remember posts of what people say on here to do with a discussion. Not what they post that they have or don't have or what they've ever done or not done/couldn't do/would do etc etc.
To follow someone's life path is merely an interesting read but that ends there. How all these facts were ever dredged up is intriguing to me!!
Posted 05-31-2009 at 07:58 PM by Xerxys
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