Proof or Hoax? Bigfoot Found in Georgia - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Cynthetiq · 08-14-2008, 09:37 PM

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Georgians say they have proof of Bigfoot
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North Georgia men say they've found a den of Bigfoot creatures
They say they'll reveal details of one Bigfoot on Friday in California
The body of the furry half man-half ape is 7 feet, 7 inches tall, they say
Men won't reveal Bigfoot den's location because they don't want others disturbed

(CNN) -- A policeman and a former corrections officer say that on Friday, they will unveil evidence of what they claim is their biggest capture ever: the body of Bigfoot.

Matthew Whitton and Rick Dyer, a pair of Bigfoot-hunting hobbyists from north Georgia, say they found the creature's body in a wooded area and spotted several similar creatures that were still alive.

The carcass of the furry half-man, half-ape is 7 feet, 7 inches tall and weighs more than 500 pounds, they say. However, the two are not disclosing the exact location of their discovery in order to protect the remaining creatures.

Tom Nelson, chairman of the biology department at North Georgia College and State University in Dahlonega, said he's "pretty skeptical" the world will feast its eyes on a new species Friday.

"That would certainly rock mammalogy," joked Nelson, who specializes in the study of mammals. "I see a research grant in my future."

Whitton and Dyer plan to unveil what they say is DNA and photo evidence of the discovery in Palo Alto, California, in conjunction with a group called Searching for Bigfoot Inc.

A photograph on that group's Web site shows what appears to be the body of a large, hairy creature with an ape-like face, stuffed into a large freezer.

According to a written release, the two announced the discovery on an Internet radio show, "Squatch Detective," several weeks ago.

"The only person we would allow to come down and verify the body was 'the Real Bigfoot Hunter,' Tom Biscardi," Dyer said, referring to Searching for Bigfoot's CEO, who has been looking for the elusive, legendary creature in the United States and Canada since 1971.

Whitton is a Georgia police officer who is on administrative leave after being shot in the wrist during a pursuit. Dyer is a former prison guard.

DNA tests on the body have begun, said the statement, and "extensive scientific studies" will be done on the body by scientists, including a molecular biologist, an anthropologist and a paleontologist.

Nelson, the university professor, acknowledged that new species of animals have been discovered in recent decades and that, in science, "we always acknowledge the possibility of something new."

But he said that even in north Georgia, home to the Blue Ridge Mountains and the foot of the Appalachian Trail, it stretches the imagination to think a family of 7-foot-tall creatures could have eluded hunters, hikers and creeping development until now.

"To the average person, these places just seem like extreme wilderness where you'll find lions and tigers and bears," he said. "The reality is that you're never more than a mile from a road."

The group says the animal is male, has reddish hair and "blackish-gray" eyes and human-like feet, hands and teeth.

Do you believe that they found a Bigfoot carcass?

Kind of looks like fake fur product to me. I'd like for them to discover something as incredible as this, but I don't think that they ever really will. I'm very much fascinated by the ideas and stories, kind of like a ghost story or urban legend.

There's another write up here: Proof or Hoax? Bigfoot Said Found in Georgia | LiveScience

dlish · 08-14-2008, 09:43 PM

im not sure.. was he shot by those damn russians?

hope it is real though..will bring another dimension to the whole darwin debate.

thespian86 · 08-14-2008, 09:44 PM

Heard about this on Q this afternoon. Could certainly be real. Hope so.

Although it would ruin the Chuck Kolsterman question "If in one day a group of hunters in Oregon accidentally captured a big foot, a few fisherman found the dead body of a recently deceased Loch Ness, and the president of the united states had a heart attack and was in the ICU; which would be the headline of the NY Times if you were the editor?"

Willravel · 08-14-2008, 09:47 PM

Bigfoot, eh? Up there with the Chupacabra and flying rods. If the evidence is strong and verifiable, great. It probably won't be.

dlish · 08-14-2008, 09:51 PM

have you no trust in photographic evidence? i mean..its right there!

geez louise..a hard bunch to please

Martian · 08-14-2008, 09:53 PM

If they can provide a corpse for a reputable scientific institute to study, then I'll believe it. Until then, I am skeptical at best.

punkmusicfan21: Q, as in Q107? Are you in Toronto now? And if so, why the hell didn't you say something? I've been waiting for my chance to buy you beer.

xepherys · 08-14-2008, 10:03 PM

well, a police officer should know enough about DNA evidence to not try to pull such a thing if he KNOWS he'll be found a fraud. *shrug*

But then, people are idiots, so, we'll see...

jorgelito · 08-14-2008, 10:07 PM

I'll wait for the scientific report. The pic is not conclusive. We'll just have to wait and see though. I'm not holding my breath.

KellyC · 08-14-2008, 10:22 PM

I'm inclined to think this is a hoax. A better attempt than the previous ones.

Vigilante · 08-14-2008, 10:35 PM

Hoax

Georgia Bigfoot Body Hoax

dlish · 08-14-2008, 10:46 PM

good call luce

Charlatan · 08-14-2008, 11:34 PM

I was about to say that because this object was found by two "bigfoot hunters" and the only expert they were willing to show their find to was another "bigfoot hunter" I am siding with Hoax.

If this was real, what are the chance that a) a bigfoot hunter is going to make the discovery and b) why wouldn't you be pounding on the door of the Smithsonian or some highly respectable institution?

Hoax...

speshul-k · 08-15-2008, 05:07 AM

Hm, looks a bit too typical of any supposed visual that we have of 'bigfoot'. I am going with elaborate fake.

ottopilot · 08-15-2008, 07:34 AM

Have they measured it's foot? I mean, come on people ... isn't "big foot" a relative term?

blahblah454 · 08-15-2008, 10:38 AM

Does anyone else find it amusing that they stuffed their prop into a giant freezer? The supposed 400+lb creature was just manhandled into a freezer! That's hilarious! They didn't even cut it up first, isn't that how you normally put bodies into a freezer? Hardy har har.

Nice debunk. Pretty simple stuff.

Vigilante · 08-15-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopilot

Have they measured it's foot? I mean, come on people ... isn't "big foot" a relative term?

In another article, they claimed it was around 16 inches.

Reese · 08-15-2008, 12:46 PM

How does this crap even become news? Shit like this shouldn't even be reported on until there's some kind of official source. CNN, "the most respected cable news channel" has been reporting on this shit all week.. WHO FUCKING GIVES A SHIT! Haven't we learned from the years and years and years and.. fucking years of hoaxes never to give something a second thought until the proof is unveiled?

People are stupid.
-----Added 15/8/2008 at 05 : 23 : 16-----
I would like to say one thing though.. I see stuff like "oh it'd be more believable if it wasn't discovered by bigfoot hunters." but really, who would you expect to find it.. Surely not some accountant doing taxes in his H&R block looking out the window, and not me who's inside playin video games.. You're not likely to find something unless you're really lookin for it..

thespian86 · 08-15-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Martian

If they can provide a corpse for a reputable scientific institute to study, then I'll believe it. Until then, I am skeptical at best.

punkmusicfan21: Q, as in Q107? Are you in Toronto now? And if so, why the hell didn't you say something? I've been waiting for my chance to buy you beer.

Naw dude, I'm not there until the 26th and it was Q with Jian Ghomeshe on CBC.

And I can't wait for that drink; I'll be freaking thirsty with all that smog.

Vigilante · 08-19-2008, 03:27 PM

Hoax confirmed

Bigfoot Hoax Called A 'Scheme To Defraud' -- Bigfoot -- InformationWeek

Now don't get me wrong, I do think there is a remote possibility of a large undiscovered primate, simply because the indirect evidence (remote footprints, etc) is pretty widespread. Sightings are of course subjective, but people have seen something, for sure.

That said, this is not one of those cases, and I honestly smelled a hoax from the beginning.

Charlatan · 08-19-2008, 05:24 PM

People who are desperate to "believe" are the easiest to defraud. They work for an organization called, Searching for Bigfoot, Inc.... why not just hang a sign around their necks saying, "please take our money".

Sion · 08-19-2008, 06:43 PM

so, how long before CNN admits it was a hoax?

dlish · 08-19-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blahblah454

Does anyone else find it amusing that they stuffed their prop into a giant freezer? The supposed 400+lb creature was just manhandled into a freezer! That's hilarious! They didn't even cut it up first, isn't that how you normally put bodies into a freezer? Hardy har har.

Nice debunk. Pretty simple stuff.

pfft.. as if 10ft x 10ft freezers cant be found at every corner shop. howd they lift him into the freezer is what im curious about...

speshul-k · 08-20-2008, 04:17 AM

Looks like the BBC are admitting it today.

BBC NEWS | Americas | American 'Bigfoot' is monkey suit

"American 'Bigfoot' is monkey suit"

newtx · 08-20-2008, 08:53 PM

Can't wait to see how this comes out. If I were a bettting man I would bet it will all blow over before we have any conclusive evidence. My vote is for a large HOAX.

Sion · 08-21-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sion

so, how long before CNN admits it was a hoax?

almost 2 days

Bigfoot hoaxers say it was just 'a big joke' - CNN.com

genuinegirly · 08-21-2008, 10:36 PM

Yep. Hoax. Pretty sad that one of the guys lost his job on the police force because of it.

Vigilante · 08-22-2008, 05:39 AM

Looks like a couple of sheltered georgia rednecks are learning what the world is really like now. Haha..

woOt? · 08-27-2008, 08:41 AM

I think they concluded that it was a rubber suit. There was a program about Bigfoot on Discovery channel last night. One women claimed to have contact with it since childhood. According to her, they spoke english and loved Garlic.

08-14-2008, 09:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
dlish Currently sour but formerly Dlishs Moderator Location: Australia/UAE Blog Entries: 11	im not sure.. was he shot by those damn russians? hope it is real though..will bring another dimension to the whole darwin debate. __________________ An injustice anywhere, is an injustice everywhere "Romance is never having to apologize for getting it in her hair" - World's King

08-14-2008, 09:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
thespian86 change is hard. Location: the green room. Blog Entries: 39	Heard about this on Q this afternoon. Could certainly be real. Hope so. Although it would ruin the Chuck Kolsterman question "If in one day a group of hunters in Oregon accidentally captured a big foot, a few fisherman found the dead body of a recently deceased Loch Ness, and the president of the united states had a heart attack and was in the ICU; which would be the headline of the NY Times if you were the editor?" __________________ EX: Whats new? ME: I officially love coffee more then you now. EX: uh... ME: So, not much.

08-14-2008, 09:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
dlish Currently sour but formerly Dlishs Moderator Location: Australia/UAE Blog Entries: 11	have you no trust in photographic evidence? i mean..its right there! geez louise..a hard bunch to please __________________ An injustice anywhere, is an injustice everywhere "Romance is never having to apologize for getting it in her hair" - World's King

08-14-2008, 09:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
Martian Young Crumudgeon Location: Canada Blog Entries: 57	If they can provide a corpse for a reputable scientific institute to study, then I'll believe it. Until then, I am skeptical at best. punkmusicfan21: Q, as in Q107? Are you in Toronto now? And if so, why the hell didn't you say something? I've been waiting for my chance to buy you beer. __________________ I wake up in the morning more tired than before I slept I get through cryin' and I'm sadder than before I wept I get through thinkin' now, and the thoughts have left my head I get through speakin' and I can't remember, not a word that I said - Ben Harper, Show Me A Little Shame

08-14-2008, 10:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
xepherys <3 TFP Location: Michigan USA	well, a police officer should know enough about DNA evidence to not try to pull such a thing if he KNOWS he'll be found a fraud. shrug But then, people are idiots, so, we'll see... __________________ A good marriage is at least 80 percent good luck in finding the right person at the right time. The rest is trust. -- Nanette Newman The prospect of achieving a peace agreement with the extremist group of MILF is almost impossible... -- Emmanuel Pinol, Governor of Cotobato My Homepage

08-14-2008, 09:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter. Location: Behind the brick wall, inside the gray room, at the black desk. Blog Entries: 14	Bigfoot, eh? Up there with the Chupacabra and flying rods. If the evidence is strong and verifiable, great. It probably won't be.

08-14-2008, 10:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
jorgelito All important elusive independent swing voter... Location: People's Republic of KKKalifornia	I'll wait for the scientific report. The pic is not conclusive. We'll just have to wait and see though. I'm not holding my breath. __________________ "The race is not always to the swift, nor battle to the strong, but to the one that endures to the end." "Demand more from yourself, more than anyone else could ever ask!" - My recruiter

08-14-2008, 10:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
KellyC Comment or else!! Location: Home sweet home	I'm inclined to think this is a hoax. A better attempt than the previous ones. __________________ Him: Ok, I have to ask, what do you believe? Me: Shit happens.

08-14-2008, 10:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
Vigilante Broken Arrow Location: US Blog Entries: 4	Hoax Georgia Bigfoot Body Hoax __________________ Stultorum infinitus est numerus True patriotism is more closely linked to dissent than it is to conformity and a blind desire for safety and security.

08-14-2008, 10:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
dlish Currently sour but formerly Dlishs Moderator Location: Australia/UAE Blog Entries: 11	good call luce __________________ An injustice anywhere, is an injustice everywhere "Romance is never having to apologize for getting it in her hair" - World's King

08-14-2008, 11:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
Charlatan Bringing a Chill to the Tropics Moderator Location: Lion City Blog Entries: 35	I was about to say that because this object was found by two "bigfoot hunters" and the only expert they were willing to show their find to was another "bigfoot hunter" I am siding with Hoax. If this was real, what are the chance that a) a bigfoot hunter is going to make the discovery and b) why wouldn't you be pounding on the door of the Smithsonian or some highly respectable institution? Hoax... __________________ “Under a separation of state and economics, especially with laissez-faire capitalism [Free Trade], the state no longer has a role to play in protecting the people and assuring their happiness. Laissez-faire means capitalism is outside the regulatory control of the state and that the people are entirely at the mercy of the capitalists.” – Thomas Jefferson

08-15-2008, 05:07 AM	#13 (permalink)
speshul-k Insane	Hm, looks a bit too typical of any supposed visual that we have of 'bigfoot'. I am going with elaborate fake.

08-15-2008, 07:34 AM	#14 (permalink)
ottopilot worship me Location: Waddy Peytona	Have they measured it's foot? I mean, come on people ... isn't "big foot" a relative term? __________________ "I'm not an animal, I'm a human being... you gonna eat that?" - Elephant Guy

08-15-2008, 10:38 AM	#15 (permalink)
blahblah454 Let's put a smile on that face Location: On the road... Blog Entries: 1	Does anyone else find it amusing that they stuffed their prop into a giant freezer? The supposed 400+lb creature was just manhandled into a freezer! That's hilarious! They didn't even cut it up first, isn't that how you normally put bodies into a freezer? Hardy har har. Nice debunk. Pretty simple stuff.

08-15-2008, 12:46 PM	#17 (permalink)
Reese Delicious Blog Entries: 18	How does this crap even become news? Shit like this shouldn't even be reported on until there's some kind of official source. CNN, "the most respected cable news channel" has been reporting on this shit all week.. WHO FUCKING GIVES A SHIT! Haven't we learned from the years and years and years and.. fucking years of hoaxes never to give something a second thought until the proof is unveiled? People are stupid. -----Added 15/8/2008 at 05 : 23 : 16----- I would like to say one thing though.. I see stuff like "oh it'd be more believable if it wasn't discovered by bigfoot hunters." but really, who would you expect to find it.. Surely not some accountant doing taxes in his H&R block looking out the window, and not me who's inside playin video games.. You're not likely to find something unless you're really lookin for it.. __________________ “It is better to be rich and healthy than poor and sick” - Dave Barry Last edited by Reese; 08-15-2008 at 02:23 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

08-19-2008, 06:43 PM	#21 (permalink)
Sion The All-Being, Master of Time, Space and Dimension Location: then, I wanna go to Europe	so, how long before CNN admits it was a hoax? __________________ Never attribute to malicious intent that which can equally and adequately be explained by stupidity. -unknown If you cannot pass 6th grade science, you are not qualified to have opinions about scientific issues. You can HAVE opinions. You just aren't qualified to have them; so keep them to yourself. -greytone My loony bun is fine Benny Lava.

08-19-2008, 03:27 PM	#19 (permalink)
Vigilante Broken Arrow Location: US Blog Entries: 4	Hoax confirmed Bigfoot Hoax Called A 'Scheme To Defraud' -- Bigfoot -- InformationWeek Now don't get me wrong, I do think there is a remote possibility of a large undiscovered primate, simply because the indirect evidence (remote footprints, etc) is pretty widespread. Sightings are of course subjective, but people have seen something, for sure. That said, this is not one of those cases, and I honestly smelled a hoax from the beginning. __________________ Stultorum infinitus est numerus True patriotism is more closely linked to dissent than it is to conformity and a blind desire for safety and security.

08-19-2008, 05:24 PM	#20 (permalink)
Charlatan Bringing a Chill to the Tropics Moderator Location: Lion City Blog Entries: 35	People who are desperate to "believe" are the easiest to defraud. They work for an organization called, Searching for Bigfoot, Inc.... why not just hang a sign around their necks saying, "please take our money". __________________ “Under a separation of state and economics, especially with laissez-faire capitalism [Free Trade], the state no longer has a role to play in protecting the people and assuring their happiness. Laissez-faire means capitalism is outside the regulatory control of the state and that the people are entirely at the mercy of the capitalists.” – Thomas Jefferson

08-20-2008, 04:17 AM	#23 (permalink)
speshul-k Insane	Looks like the BBC are admitting it today. BBC NEWS \| Americas \| American 'Bigfoot' is monkey suit "American 'Bigfoot' is monkey suit"

08-20-2008, 08:53 PM	#24 (permalink)
newtx Addict	Can't wait to see how this comes out. If I were a bettting man I would bet it will all blow over before we have any conclusive evidence. My vote is for a large HOAX.

08-21-2008, 10:36 PM	#26 (permalink)
genuinegirly Eat your vegetables Super Moderator Location: Arabidopsis-ville Blog Entries: 138	Yep. Hoax. Pretty sad that one of the guys lost his job on the police force because of it. __________________ "Sometimes I have to remember that things are brought to me for a reason, either for my own lessons or for the benefit of others." Cynthetiq "violence is no more or less real than non-violence." roachboy

08-22-2008, 05:39 AM	#27 (permalink)
Vigilante Broken Arrow Location: US Blog Entries: 4	Looks like a couple of sheltered georgia rednecks are learning what the world is really like now. Haha.. __________________ Stultorum infinitus est numerus True patriotism is more closely linked to dissent than it is to conformity and a blind desire for safety and security.

08-27-2008, 08:41 AM	#28 (permalink)
woOt? Crazy Location: Miami, FL	I think they concluded that it was a rubber suit. There was a program about Bigfoot on Discovery channel last night. One women claimed to have contact with it since childhood. According to her, they spoke english and loved Garlic.