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Baffled
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Michigan
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Old debate...Charcoal or gas for grilling?
I realize there is no definitive answer to this question that has been argued forever, it's completely subjective. I just thought it would be fun to ask you TFP food brethren what you prefer.
This thread was thought of because tonight was "my" first night of our beloved grilling season. My hubby and I love to cook together but for whatever reason, he cower's before the grill. We both love grilled meat, so I am left to be the "grill keeper" (really weak Ghostbuster's reference ).I personally prefer the taste of meat cooked over real fire (that is: charcoal). I have experienced charcoal most of my life but I had a built-in gas grill at a rental house a few years ago. I absolutely loved the convienience of it but it just didn't infuse the food with the smoky goodness I love. I have to admit, much like some people love the smell of gas or skunk, I really like the smell and taste that's imparted to food from lighter fluid. Weird or not so much? So let's hear it fellow griller's, what do you use and what do you prefer?
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Tilted Cat Head
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Manhattan, NY
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here in NYC... electric since that's all that is allowed on the balconies of all apartments.
of course I prefer charcoal, has a more nuanced flavor if you can get wood chips to burn with it. Otherwise, I don't care.
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Baffled
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Michigan
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I stand chastened Cyn, I hadn't considered that aspect (should have, I rented for 17 1/2 yrs.). I'm curious, by electric do you mean something like a large Foreman grill? I can't seem to think of anything else beyond a hot plate..
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Addict
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: The Forgotten Works
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I prefer mesquite charcoal, although it's a bit harder to maintain a proper temperature. Kingsford is shit; I don't use it. I've found that putting a few pieces of mesquite charcoal over the burners of a gas grill imparts a lot of flavor without hampering the convenience of gas.
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Crazy
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: West of Denver
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Propane all the way for me, strictly for convenience and temperature control. I use a smoker box to char mesquite chips, it helps impart some of the smoky flavor.
I'm probably moving to an apartment in a month or two, I'm also interested in hearing about these electric grills. If it heats lava rocks and I can put a smoker box on it I'm pretty much sold. Can't be more expensive to run than using propane cylinders from the gas station... $22 each, youch.
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Upright
Join Date: May 2007
Location: East of Dallas
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Well,
Known as the "goto man" around our little town when it comes to outdoor cooking, I use a number of fuels and techniques. With the propane grill, I make a foil tray to lay water soaked wood chips in. Chips can either be hickory, pecan, or mesquite, depending on the meat I am cooking. Get the chips on the foil just as you light the burners to allow the grates to heat. When I do fajita's (and the only way to do fajita's) is over a Kingsford based fire where I add heavily barked mesquite logs (easy to find here in Texas) to the coals once the Kingsford's have gray edges. I know some may not think well of Kingsford, but when used right, is the best charcoal (that is not "real" charcoal) in my opinion ("Kingsford" type of briquets are infused with coal.). When we smoke pigs, briskets, sausage and jalapeno's, as we did a couple of weeks ago, I use Kingsford as a base fuel, and pecan as the smoking flavor. Pecan gives a sweeter flavor to the meat than hickory. |
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The Nexus One
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: teetering on the lip of the box
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i use charcoal exclusively but with a charcoal chimney so as to avoid the lighter fluid flavor in my meat.
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Addict
Join Date: Apr 2003
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I have a Weber charcoal grill that is the bomb. In addition to the charcoal flavor, most gas grills just don't put out enough heat to get a decent char on the food, which to me is the whole point of grilling. There may be gas grills that put out the heat I want, I've only tried a few. I second noodle's suggestion of a chimney for starting the charcoal. Much, much easier than other methods, and no lighter fluid. I generally use the 'cowboy' natural lump charcoal they sell at lowes.
Now I want a steak. :-) |
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Drinking Your Milkshake
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Lion City
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In Canada I use natural gas exclusively. That said, you can get slow cooking and flavour by using smoke pouches (water soaked wood chips wrapped in tinfoil - the foil pouch sits on the heat and the meat doesn't - ie indirect heat).
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A Little Loopy
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Outside Denver
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A good cookout (hot fire grilling or low fire & slow smoking) ain't about convenience, it's about hanging out with friends & family, having a few drinks, and eating good food. As you can tell, my vote is for charcoal. I also only use the chimney style starters.
Like others have mentioned, even the "biggest and best" gas grills I have cooked on (been forced to cook on) never got nearly as hot as a good bed of coals. Also, by using a relatively cheap thermometer on the dome of your charcoal cooker, and adjusting the vents, you can easily control the temperature of charcoal grills for long cooks. Yeah, it takes practice, but the results are worth it, IMHO.
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Upright
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: O.C.
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I dont actually have a preference but using charcoal gives me more of an outdoor feeling. I find it relaxing to close my eyes and take in the aroma!!
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Drinking Your Milkshake
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Lion City
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I am all about the convenience. The bbq I had in Toronto was just out my back door. Because it was natural gas, I could use it all year round. I just don't see myself coming home from work and lighting some charcoal in the dark when it's -10c. Natural gas gives me (close to) instant heat.
And when you are grilling on high heat, it really doesn't matter if you are using gas or wood or charcoal. The meat isn't on the grill long enough to get that much flavour from your heat source. It's only when you are slow grilling on low heat that it matters.
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Neither.
Hickory, Maple, Oak, Peach, Maple, or Oak are the way to go. Charcoal is an okay second. Gas makes the meat taste wrong.
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feeling evil
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Corvallis, Oregon
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I have a charcoal grill (actually, two--a portable Weber Smokey Joe and a Weber Silver that stays on the patio). It's easy enough for me. I got quite good at getting it started last summer. I love to grill. Cooking outdoors is a favorite pleasure. One of my favorite things to make last summer was to take whatever we could find at the farmer's market, grill it with a little seasoning, and then wrap it up in a pita with tzatziki sauce and fresh cukes/heirloom tomatoes. Yum.
We're beginning to see asparagus here, and I'm looking forward to getting some from the farmer's market for grilling.
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Drinking Your Milkshake
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Lion City
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Will fly for it
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Yucatan
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So for me the answer is Charcoal, usually with some wet wood chips added near the end of the grilling process.
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Some nucking fut house.
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Psycho
Join Date: Mar 2006
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I use a Holland grill for the consistancy. However I also use a heavy duty steel Brinkman smoker when I am in the mood for hours of smoking. The Holland grills at about 400 degrees with no flare ups. The Brinkman works quite well after drilling 5 or 6 exra holes in it. But I am still planning to purchase a Weber kettle. I have read so many good reviews about the Weber that I feel I must add it to my arsenal of grillery.
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Will fly for it
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Yucatan
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Junkie
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Chicago, IL
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Charcoal, I hate gas grill which my brother swears by. He simply doesn't want the cleanup. If I want convenient food I'll order delivery or get fast food. When I invite friends for a bbq, I want to hang and drink with them while we wait the two proper hours halfway decent bbq takes. I do not want to skimp because of a 2min. cleanup afterwards, nor do I EVER have a problem controlling temperature.
Then again, bbq is done different down south. If you invite someone for a BBQ and have burgers/hot dogs... you'll have a lot of people who won't come to your next BBQ. Those classify as Cookouts, there's nothing wrong with them... they're just not BBQ's.
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