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Insane
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Earthships! and Alternative Building
I recently started reading about sustainable developement for some random reason.. and these puppies came out. I began to read about them and noticed that I couldn't stop.
I someday dream about building my own house.. and I think this would be it. These things are just amazing. This link is a 5 min video on the basics of an earthship. http://www.earthship.net/ and this is a link to Earthship Biotecture, the company that came up with the idea. For anyone who is interested in sustainable development or alternative, I think they should give it a check. I was just amazed by the concept and thought I should share it. also, if anyone else would like to put forth any ideas on sustainable or alternative building methods, please feel free. its amazing what you can do with some left over garbage. **Placed in the how-to section, to share knowledge of topics.. not politics =)** |
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Drifting
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Windy City
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I'll point tecoyah to this thread, as we are currently in the process of finishing construction on a straw bale structure, the first in our county.
Here are some pictures of the building progress: and yes... there are a TON of pics in here: http://flickr.com/photos/pjchmiel/se...7604143533254/
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Insane
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ontario, Canada
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wow, I looked through every one, thats a nice photo diary you have of the construction process.
I'm curious, why did you decide to go with Straw Bale? I mean there are so many choices out there. I think the honeycomb sandbags are also fairly interesting also, did you require any permits or such? |
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: up north
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"wait, don't drop that cigarette!...." *WOOOOOOSH!*
i seriously hope you have some sort of fireproofing in that house! back to the OP: that's a cool project to start! i wonder what the overall cost would be.
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Insane
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ontario, Canada
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If i am correct by the end like 6 inches of mud / lime plaster Quote:
from what I have read for one room, somewhere around 10,000 ... upwards of 200,000 ... depending on size, systems, glass, labour, etc. The average seems between 20,000 and 50,000 for do-it-yourselfers (including, systems, resources, etc.) Last edited by Seanland; 06-23-2008 at 08:44 AM. Reason: misread |
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Illusionary
Join Date: Nov 2003
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This building is more fireproof than virtually anything but steel or concrete as the bales will smoulder under extreme situations but cannot burn. The cost ended up about $5000, and almost $1000 of that was the legalities involved with introducing alternative construction to the City, getting the insurance/Engineers stamp/ permits in place. I chose Straw Bale due to its proven longevity, thermal properties, ease of construction, and environmentally sound usage (its usually burned in the field or used as livestock bedding because nothing will eat it). Added to this is the asthetic beauty of the house, and the flexibility in construction.
One of the motivators in this project was creating a legal framework, and acceptance with an eye on low cost housing. As it is, the project has drawn much media coverage, and community awareness...So it seems I have succeeded in this, and become somewhat famous...infamous, heh. I am now doing the hardest part.....earthplastering.
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Drinking Your Milkshake
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Lion City
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I have also heard some good things about rammed earth houses as well.
There have been a few straw bale houses in Canada, if I remember correctly.
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In the 6th percentile
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Toronto
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There's an earthship in Peterborough, Ontario. Old tires, pop cans—the whole nine yards...uh, I mean 8.2296 metres.
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Grumpypants
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Virginia
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This thread turns me on.
No, really. Crompsin and I spent about an hour talking about home designs and sustainable living on Saturday and it really made me happy. I have lots of ideas, and it's nice to see photos and such of people who have achieved what I'd like to do.
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Insane
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ontario, Canada
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but not much information on any of them. Quote:
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We work alone
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Cake Town
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It's like a mix of Biodome and the houses found on Tatooine.
It's nice in concept, but not something I would live in.
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Warrior Smith
Join Date: May 2003
Location: missouri
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parents know some people that built a straw bale house- apparently it matters a great deal how one goes about it- 5 years later they are demolishing it due to black mold and a rodent and bug infestation- Humid here in the midwest, and obviously they had some way in....
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Insane
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ontario, Canada
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http://www.youtube.com/user/stophelandis
This is pretty much a set a youtube videos following this one specific earthship being built, they are still building it, and the last video was put up on friday, the 27th of june, so they regularly update it. Quote:
-Didn't wrap it properly -Didn't coat it properly -Stacks weren't compressed close enough together just to name the major ones I could see. Humidity definitely doesn't help. |
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We work alone
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Cake Town
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Whoa! A real life celebrity!
I wonder if any TV celebrities post here.
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“Some people went around interviewing dying patients and not one person said they regretted not making more money or working harder. They all seemed to say their regrets were not spending more time with the people they love, and not traveling more and not relating more…to the world” |
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Illusionary
Join Date: Nov 2003
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The water/mold/rodent issue came about because of poorly made walls, and likely a short overhang on the roof. Just like any wall, you need to do it properly during construction, or it will fail.
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Currently sour but formerly Dlishs
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Australia/UAE
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way to go tec!
when is it due to be fully completed?
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Illusionary
Join Date: Nov 2003
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About a month to go...I only have about 12 hrs a week to work on it, and tours/press/curious folk, take up a good 8 of that....heh
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Currently sour but formerly Dlishs
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Australia/UAE
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prolly cost him the same as the whole house!
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Illusionary
Join Date: Nov 2003
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I did a french trench foundation, and have started the Passive Geothermal floor. Bare earth leveled/vapor barrier/Sand. I will build a floating frame system imbedded in the sand, and lay tile on top to allow the temperature of the Earth to heat and cool the interior. This combined with the passive solar window area should make it comfy year round.
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Insane
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ontario, Canada
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are there any books you would recommend on these houses and the "fixtures" or additional things you have added? I recently purchased the "Earthship Library" which includes The three earthship volumes, 2 DVDs, 1 PhotoCD, and the book Water from the Sky. I am currently about a quarter through the third book.. and wow, just some of the science and thought behind the additions to the earthships are awesome. The most recent one that I have read, was on a Thermal Mass Refrigerator. Are you going to be doing any rain collection? |
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Illusionary
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Holding onto anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. - Buddha Last edited by tecoyah; 07-26-2008 at 02:18 PM. |
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