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ARTelevision · 05-06-2003, 08:11 PM

May 6

DETROIT (Reuters) - Hummer owners, frustrated with the vehicle's excessive fuel consumption, ranked the SUV last in a benchmark poll of vehicle quality, according to a survey released by J.D. Power and Associates on Tuesday.

In the group's annual survey of consumers during the first 90 days of ownership, General Motors Corp.'s highly profitable Hummer brand had 225 complaints per 100 vehicles. By comparison, the top-ranked Lexus, by Toyota Motor Corp., had 76 complaints per 100 vehicles.

Gary Cowger, president of GM North America, said the H2's fuel consumption was the No. 1 complaint among owners, outpacing the No. 2 gripe -- that the SUV's headlights were aimed too high -- by a 2-1 margin. GM has fixed the headlight problem, Cowger said.

At 6,400 pounds (2,903 kg), the Hummer H2 is so heavy it falls outside U.S. regulations on fuel economy. Unlike other passenger cars and trucks, GM does not have to display the gas mileage on the window sales sticker of the H2 at dealerships. Hummer estimates the military-inspired SUV gets 11 to 13 miles per gallon.

J.D. Power conducted its survey of 52,000 U.S. owners and lessees earlier this year when the price of gas spiked higher.

"There's a very close correlation between the price of gasoline at the pump and the incidence of excessive fuel consumption problems," Brian Walters, director of product research with J.D. Power, told Reuters.

Hummer's thirst for gas certainly has not hurt sales. Hummer is the only GM division that has sold vehicles this year without costly sales incentives, such as the zero percent financing offer that has swept the industry.
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Simple statement: I still love 'em to death and would consider ownership.

How 'bout you?

Deuce66 · 05-06-2003, 08:34 PM

I like the original Hummer, but the H2 is a piece of crap, IMO. =)

rs8001 · 05-06-2003, 08:42 PM

Just last night my brother said he'd been to an auto show. Of all the vehicles there they Hummer and a massive Ford dually crew cab the were only ones without the estimated MPG displayed. I guess I know why now.

Pretty stupid to buy a vehicle and not consider its fuel usage if it is something you're going to be sensitive and complain about later. I don't suppose that is something the salesmen point out at the dealership though.

sixate · 05-06-2003, 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by ARTelevision
Simple statement: I still love 'em to death and would consider ownership.

How 'bout you?

Same here. If they were in my price range I wouldn't care about the gas milage. For what they cost I'd buy a BMW M3 though.

Tech · 05-06-2003, 09:43 PM

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newsflash

newsflash my ass... does anyone really think that their H2 is going to get good gas milage? really now...

X_cody_X · 05-06-2003, 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by Deuce66
I like the original Hummer, but the H2 is a piece of crap, IMO. =)

ditto

charliex · 05-06-2003, 11:43 PM

every man and their dog seems to have an H2 around these parts, its insanity.

still you have to think "duh" when you read about people complaining about gas mileage, whats next tyres too expensive to replace ? doesn't corner well at high speeds ?

splck · 05-07-2003, 12:22 AM

The H2's are butt ugly, even the first ones released look rediculous. I don't see the appeal of those units. I do alot of 4x4ing and I've never seen one of them out in the bush.
I chuckle at the city slickers that think they look cool in them.

TequilaJr · 05-07-2003, 01:10 AM

Yeah, it really seems silly that the people that bought these are now complaining about the fuel mileage. Does it really come as a surprise to them that they have to shell out that much $ for gas now? If they want fuel economy, they should buy a Civic. That being said, if I had the money where I could afford to buy one myself, I'd get one in an instant.

impirius7 · 05-07-2003, 01:40 AM

if i had to have a hummer, i would definitely take the first one. but i would much rather take the money and buy a BMW and a hayabusa. i live in an upscale area and i see H2s everywhere, it is kind of annoying actually.

Cynthetiq · 05-07-2003, 08:12 AM

AHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH my icelandic friends get a kick out of the Hummer...Hummer in Iceland TV Spots

They love to wait until they get stuck and then pull them out with a real super jeep.

Spyder_Venom · 05-07-2003, 08:14 AM

If you buy a fucking hummer do you think its going to get gas milage? This is the apitamy of america, buy a big ass truck and then bitch that it gets bad gas mileage.

If you wanted gas milage buy a honda!

merkerguitars · 05-07-2003, 08:17 AM

Ok that big of vehicle that isn't aerodynamic...what the hell did those people expect!!!!!!!! If they want the damn gas mileage buy a freaking honda hybrid.. If I where to buy a hummber I would buy an ex military one due to its stripped out and all ready for ultimate offroading

hrdwareguy · 05-07-2003, 11:47 AM

As already stated, who thinks these things are going to get good gas mileage to begin with? It's about as aerodynamic as a brick.

Would I own one? Hell yeah if it was in my price range.

YELLOW450 · 05-07-2003, 02:41 PM

Hummer and gas mileage don't go in the same sentence.

username · 05-07-2003, 10:48 PM

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Hummer and gas mileage don't go in the same sentence.

Hummer and bad gas mileage sure do.

Also speaking of the ugly H2 does anyone have pics of the Studebaker H2 rip-off shown around 2001-2002?

Ashton · 05-08-2003, 05:35 AM

Since when does gas mileage matter to someone that is paying just as much for their car/truck/suv payment..... that most people spend on their rent?

Radiospank · 05-08-2003, 12:02 PM

Man i Love my honda 360 miles per fill up

edmos1 · 05-08-2003, 03:54 PM

who thought when they bought an H2 that it was going to get great gas mileage. it gets exstimated 11-13, that is not too bad the last years of the Ford Bronco it was getting 13-14 mpg

DEI37 · 05-08-2003, 04:55 PM

You sure about that? I thought bad mileage consisted of less than 10mpg on average! I hate this SUV craze that this country has right now. It's pathetic. Now, to be a hypocrite, I love Suburban's, and I'd love to get a hold of a Crew Cab, one ton, diesel pickup.

fublas · 05-09-2003, 03:45 AM

The Hummer is a very unique and exotic car. It has bad gas mileage... who gives a crap. If the owners have a problem with that they have no business buy that type of vehicle in the first place.

Spyder_Venom · 05-09-2003, 08:10 AM

I still think if they can afford a 60k truck they can foot the 10 MPG

BoCo · 05-09-2003, 12:55 PM

If you can afford to buy the thing, then you probably have enough money for gas.

I suspect some left-wing, tree-hugging group is making these complaints, and not the actual owners.

monster · 05-09-2003, 09:43 PM

if you can afford an H2, you aren't worried about gas mileage.

lt1s10 · 05-09-2003, 09:59 PM

If they paid that much money for an H2 then gas shouldn't be problem. If you put out that much money without thinking about what it'd cost to keep it on the road then it's your own fault.

If I'm spending that kind of money an M5 would be my choice. At this point looks like I won't get the chance to ever own a new one though.

cybermike · 05-10-2003, 04:18 AM

Its not about the price of gas. Its about having to stop EVERY time you go somewhere. You fill up, drive to work, drive home, drive to gas station, repeat... Its something you have to do EVERY time you get in the car. you wanna go out and travel in the middle of no where, you better move those sleeping bags over and fill up with gas cans. wait... What am I talking about. No one takes an H2 offroad.

Zooksport2 · 05-10-2003, 05:09 AM

H2 certainly is "prettier" tha the original. but who wants pretty? As for gas milage. I say the same as most other realistic persons: How can a 3 ton truck be expected to get 20 + MPG. It does have a 32 gallon tank!
I used to own a F100 with 250ci six. At best it got 15 MPG. And it weighed 1/2 as much as the hummer.

PS we are paying as much as 1 dollar (aust) per litre fo unleaded in OZ (more for 98, and even more for LRP["lead replacement petrol])

ducati999 · 05-11-2003, 01:27 AM

The H2 is an absolute piece of utter crap, it excels AT NOTHING, its just an expensive Yukon. Now the H1's are awsome and do great offroad, the H2 would blow up if it every touched dirt, also everyone and their mother has one where i live i seriously see about 10 a day, I hate those cars, absolutely god afully ugly.

SweetVroom · 05-11-2003, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by hrdwareguy
As already stated, who thinks these things are going to get good gas mileage to begin with? It's about as aerodynamic as a brick.

Would I own one? Hell yeah if it was in my price range.

actually a g-class would have a better relation to a brick

Fearless_Hyena · 05-11-2003, 02:22 PM

i find it ironic and funny that Reuters even considered this newsworthy....what's the point??

and yes, if i had the loot i'd get an original hummer.

05-06-2003, 08:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
ARTelevision I am we Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: USA	Newsflash: Hummer Guzzles Gas May 6 DETROIT (Reuters) - Hummer owners, frustrated with the vehicle's excessive fuel consumption, ranked the SUV last in a benchmark poll of vehicle quality, according to a survey released by J.D. Power and Associates on Tuesday. In the group's annual survey of consumers during the first 90 days of ownership, General Motors Corp.'s highly profitable Hummer brand had 225 complaints per 100 vehicles. By comparison, the top-ranked Lexus, by Toyota Motor Corp., had 76 complaints per 100 vehicles. Gary Cowger, president of GM North America, said the H2's fuel consumption was the No. 1 complaint among owners, outpacing the No. 2 gripe -- that the SUV's headlights were aimed too high -- by a 2-1 margin. GM has fixed the headlight problem, Cowger said. At 6,400 pounds (2,903 kg), the Hummer H2 is so heavy it falls outside U.S. regulations on fuel economy. Unlike other passenger cars and trucks, GM does not have to display the gas mileage on the window sales sticker of the H2 at dealerships. Hummer estimates the military-inspired SUV gets 11 to 13 miles per gallon. J.D. Power conducted its survey of 52,000 U.S. owners and lessees earlier this year when the price of gas spiked higher. "There's a very close correlation between the price of gasoline at the pump and the incidence of excessive fuel consumption problems," Brian Walters, director of product research with J.D. Power, told Reuters. Hummer's thirst for gas certainly has not hurt sales. Hummer is the only GM division that has sold vehicles this year without costly sales incentives, such as the zero percent financing offer that has swept the industry. .............................................. Simple statement: I still love 'em to death and would consider ownership. How 'bout you? __________________ www.ARTelevision.com

05-07-2003, 12:22 AM	#8 (permalink)
splck anti-vowel Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: On the West side of Canada..	The H2's are butt ugly, even the first ones released look rediculous. I don't see the appeal of those units. I do alot of 4x4ing and I've never seen one of them out in the bush. I chuckle at the city slickers that think they look cool in them. __________________ nice line eh?

05-07-2003, 08:12 AM	#11 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Manhattan, NY	AHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH my icelandic friends get a kick out of the Hummer...Hummer in Iceland TV Spots They love to wait until they get stuck and then pull them out with a real super jeep. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, Indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Independent, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION! Last edited by Cynthetiq; 05-07-2003 at 08:21 AM.

05-07-2003, 08:14 AM	#12 (permalink)
Spyder_Venom Psycho Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: MN	If you buy a fucking hummer do you think its going to get gas milage? This is the apitamy of america, buy a big ass truck and then bitch that it gets bad gas mileage. If you wanted gas milage buy a honda! __________________ The local track whore

05-07-2003, 08:17 AM	#13 (permalink)
merkerguitars Buffering......... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Wisconsin...	Ok that big of vehicle that isn't aerodynamic...what the hell did those people expect!!!!!!!! If they want the damn gas mileage buy a freaking honda hybrid.. If I where to buy a hummber I would buy an ex military one due to its stripped out and all ready for ultimate offroading __________________ Donate now! Ask me How! Please use the search function it is your friend. Look at my mustang please feel free to comment! http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-motors/26985-my-project-84-mustang-gt.html

05-06-2003, 08:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Deuce66 Tilted Join Date: Apr 2003	I like the original Hummer, but the H2 is a piece of crap, IMO. =)

05-06-2003, 08:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
rs8001 Crazy Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Indiana	Just last night my brother said he'd been to an auto show. Of all the vehicles there they Hummer and a massive Ford dually crew cab the were only ones without the estimated MPG displayed. I guess I know why now. Pretty stupid to buy a vehicle and not consider its fuel usage if it is something you're going to be sensitive and complain about later. I don't suppose that is something the salesmen point out at the dealership though.

05-06-2003, 11:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
charliex Junkie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North Hollywood	every man and their dog seems to have an H2 around these parts, its insanity. still you have to think "duh" when you read about people complaining about gas mileage, whats next tyres too expensive to replace ? doesn't corner well at high speeds ?

05-07-2003, 01:10 AM	#9 (permalink)
TequilaJr Crazy Join Date: Apr 2003	Yeah, it really seems silly that the people that bought these are now complaining about the fuel mileage. Does it really come as a surprise to them that they have to shell out that much $ for gas now? If they want fuel economy, they should buy a Civic. That being said, if I had the money where I could afford to buy one myself, I'd get one in an instant.

05-07-2003, 01:40 AM	#10 (permalink)
impirius7 Banned Join Date: Apr 2003	if i had to have a hummer, i would definitely take the first one. but i would much rather take the money and buy a BMW and a hayabusa. i live in an upscale area and i see H2s everywhere, it is kind of annoying actually.

05-07-2003, 11:47 AM	#14 (permalink)
hrdwareguy "Officer, I was in fear for my life" Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Oklahoma City	As already stated, who thinks these things are going to get good gas mileage to begin with? It's about as aerodynamic as a brick. Would I own one? Hell yeah if it was in my price range. __________________ Gun Control is hitting what you aim at Aim for the TFP, Donate Today

05-07-2003, 02:41 PM	#15 (permalink)
YELLOW450 Tilted Join Date: Apr 2003	Hummer and gas mileage don't go in the same sentence.

05-08-2003, 05:35 AM	#17 (permalink)
Ashton PORNHOUND Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California	Since when does gas mileage matter to someone that is paying just as much for their car/truck/suv payment..... that most people spend on their rent?

05-08-2003, 12:02 PM	#18 (permalink)
Radiospank Rookie Join Date: May 2003 Location: LA	Man i Love my honda 360 miles per fill up

05-08-2003, 03:54 PM	#19 (permalink)
edmos1 Daddy Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Right next door to Hell	who thought when they bought an H2 that it was going to get great gas mileage. it gets exstimated 11-13, that is not too bad the last years of the Ford Bronco it was getting 13-14 mpg

05-08-2003, 04:55 PM	#20 (permalink)
DEI37 Go faster! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Wisconsin	You sure about that? I thought bad mileage consisted of less than 10mpg on average! I hate this SUV craze that this country has right now. It's pathetic. Now, to be a hypocrite, I love Suburban's, and I'd love to get a hold of a Crew Cab, one ton, diesel pickup. __________________ Generally speaking, if you were to get what you really deserve, you might be unpleasantly surprised.

05-09-2003, 03:45 AM	#21 (permalink)
fublas Rookie Join Date: Apr 2003	The Hummer is a very unique and exotic car. It has bad gas mileage... who gives a crap. If the owners have a problem with that they have no business buy that type of vehicle in the first place.

05-09-2003, 08:10 AM	#22 (permalink)
Spyder_Venom Psycho Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: MN	I still think if they can afford a 60k truck they can foot the 10 MPG __________________ The local track whore

05-09-2003, 12:55 PM	#23 (permalink)
BoCo Fear the bunny Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hanging off the tip of the Right Wing	If you can afford to buy the thing, then you probably have enough money for gas. I suspect some left-wing, tree-hugging group is making these complaints, and not the actual owners. __________________ Activism is a way for useless people to feel important.

05-09-2003, 09:43 PM	#24 (permalink)
monster Loser Join Date: May 2003	if you can afford an H2, you aren't worried about gas mileage.

05-09-2003, 09:59 PM	#25 (permalink)
lt1s10 Crazy Join Date: Apr 2003	If they paid that much money for an H2 then gas shouldn't be problem. If you put out that much money without thinking about what it'd cost to keep it on the road then it's your own fault. If I'm spending that kind of money an M5 would be my choice. At this point looks like I won't get the chance to ever own a new one though.

05-10-2003, 04:18 AM	#26 (permalink)
cybermike Why So Serious? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Wut?	Its not about the price of gas. Its about having to stop EVERY time you go somewhere. You fill up, drive to work, drive home, drive to gas station, repeat... Its something you have to do EVERY time you get in the car. you wanna go out and travel in the middle of no where, you better move those sleeping bags over and fill up with gas cans. wait... What am I talking about. No one takes an H2 offroad. __________________ (All opinions subject to change without warning.) "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

05-10-2003, 05:09 AM	#27 (permalink)
Zooksport2 Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Perth, West Oz	H2 certainly is "prettier" tha the original. but who wants pretty? As for gas milage. I say the same as most other realistic persons: How can a 3 ton truck be expected to get 20 + MPG. It does have a 32 gallon tank! I used to own a F100 with 250ci six. At best it got 15 MPG. And it weighed 1/2 as much as the hummer. PS we are paying as much as 1 dollar (aust) per litre fo unleaded in OZ (more for 98, and even more for LRP["lead replacement petrol]) __________________ Calling all Aussies... post here: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-nonsense/113117-new-improved-cunt-thread.html Last edited by Zooksport2; 05-10-2003 at 05:19 AM.

05-11-2003, 01:27 AM	#28 (permalink)
ducati999 Crazy Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: USA	The H2 is an absolute piece of utter crap, it excels AT NOTHING, its just an expensive Yukon. Now the H1's are awsome and do great offroad, the H2 would blow up if it every touched dirt, also everyone and their mother has one where i live i seriously see about 10 a day, I hate those cars, absolutely god afully ugly. __________________ Twist of the wrist

05-11-2003, 02:22 PM	#30 (permalink)
Fearless_Hyena Hello, good evening, and bollocks. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: near DC	i find it ironic and funny that Reuters even considered this newsworthy....what's the point?? and yes, if i had the loot i'd get an original hummer.