Well I hit my 5th deer - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

merkerguitars · 05-30-2005, 01:04 AM

Yup, hit my 5th one, with my nissan I just fixed up, I didn't even put more than 300 miles on it and I only had liabilty on it, I'm so pissed, i'll post pics tomorrow...damnit damnit damnit

Chuckles · 05-30-2005, 01:17 AM

ah man that fucking sucks!

merkerguitars · 05-30-2005, 11:00 AM

todd · 05-30-2005, 12:14 PM

That really sucks. Anything under the hood damaged?

JStrider · 05-30-2005, 12:54 PM

oh man! that sucks...

a friend of mine was telling me you can buy these little silent whistles on your bumper and they keep the deer away, i dont really know where you would get em... but might be something for you to look into...

ngdawg · 05-30-2005, 01:17 PM

My brother in law hunts and I don't think he's bagged 5 deer in the last 15 years....maybe he should buy your car...

Charlatan · 05-30-2005, 01:27 PM

http://www.deerwhistle.com/

Deer-Whistles Ineffective,
Says Bioacoustics Researcher
By Janice Palmer
LINK

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Slow down! Deer crossing. It's a warning to be heeded this time of year. Deer are on the move during late fall and early winter, either because it's hunting season or because they are seeking a mate.

Scheifele, an animal bioacoustics and audiology expert, wanted to know more about the devices, so he and his research team scientifically tested their effectiveness.

The small plastic whistles, easily attached to car bumpers, hit the marketplace several years ago. Some are sold for as little as five dollars. They vary in design, but their claims are relatively the same. Their manufacturers promote them as "acoustic attention-getters", alleging deer would react to the whistle by remaining still.

"There has been a lot of conjecture about whether the whistles work or don't work, and we are one of the first independent groups to scientifically test them," says Scheifele, director of bioacoustic research at the National Undersea Research Center at Avery Point and a researcher in the Department of Animal Science.

He and his team tested six air-fed whistles in the laboratory and in the field. The study's goal was to determine the actual frequencies generated by the whistles and the intensity at which they are produced, compare that data to the hearing abilities of deer, and then take the animal's acoustic behavior into consideration.

Following the directions on each package, the team mounted the devices onto a car's front bumper. Using a road closed to the public, they drove the car at speeds ranging from 30 to 45 miles per hour while recording sound and data.

"We tested them strictly from an acoustical point of view," explains Scheifele. He found that the whistles typically produce a signal either at a frequency of 3 kilohertz (kHz) or 12 kHz. Both, as it turns out, are problematic.

The hearing range of white-tailed deer, the most common species in the United States, is between 2 kHz and 6 kHz, so the animal is not capable of hearing the 12 kHz signal.

Although deer may be able to hear the 3 kHz signal, it is only 3 decibels louder than the road noise created by the car, so the signal is buried. Scheifele points out that the situation would be worse with additional traffic in the area or if the wind was blowing.

Since completing the study, a new electronic whistle has been put on the market. Although Scheifele has not had an opportunity to test it, he has examined its advertising claims. He says the specs for the electronic whistle are considerably different from those of the air-fed devices, so "there is a possibility that the electronic whistle is more effective than the air-fed devices."

But even if deer can hear the electronic signal, the UConn scientist questions how one alerts rather than startles the animal. This is where animal behavior comes into play.

"Think about the metaphor 'deer in the headlights'," says Scheifele. "It is used to conjure up an image of someone who is confused or frightened. When deer sense something unusual, we do not know for sure how they are going to react."

Will they freeze in their tracks, run off, or charge towards the sound? Their behavior is related to the "fight-or-flight response". According to scientific literature on the subject, there is an amount of space in which an animal feels safe, but once that boundary is violated, the animal's reaction is unpredictable. Its response will depend on a number of factors, including age, sex, type of enemy, and surroundings.

"All in all, the air-fed whistles do not make sense to me acoustically, " states Scheifele.

He has written a paper on his findings and submitted it to the Acoustical Society of America's Acoustics Research Letters Online where it will shortly be under review.

maleficent · 05-30-2005, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by merkerguitars

Yup, hit my 5th one,

do you at least get to enjoy the venison? or did the deer escape? I remember what the front end of my mother's '80 Eldorado looked like when I took out a deer when I was in high school- you look like you got off pretty easy... were you hurt at all?

cj2112 · 05-30-2005, 04:00 PM

this sucks balls...other than your pride, are you ok?

Craven Morehead · 05-30-2005, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ngdawg

My brother in law hunts and I don't think he's bagged 5 deer in the last 15 years....maybe he should buy your car...

Feel bad for merker but damn, that's funny.

MSD · 05-30-2005, 07:12 PM

For the fifth time, you should be saying, "Wow, I'm lucky that wasn't a moose."

merkerguitars · 05-30-2005, 07:47 PM

Yeah i'm fine...I was just all pissed off if you can imagine. I tore it apart today. I was able to get most of the brackets, trim bent into shape. The only thing that will take some work to get back together is the hood, that is seriously messed up. I found a headlight for $15 the corner light for $15 and I won't bother with the grill for now. I found a nice big chunk of venison in my fender. I'll have more pics up later.

shakran · 05-30-2005, 07:51 PM

Don't eat the fender venison

Junkyard diving for the hood should get you one for a pretty decent price really - it's not like that's a rare car.

Those deer whistles are crap, but I've found what really works nicely is a set of those freaking bright driving lights PIAA makes. They light up EVERYTHING and it's pretty easy to see the light reflecting off the deer's eye. And if you get the 1100X, they're 55watts which means it's legal to have them on WITH the low beams. I don't recommend this for regular driving, but I'll admit when I'm in heavy deer country, they stay on.

Main drawback is that the fake tuner crowd sees the lights, thinks I'm one of them, and wants to drag race me in traffic

james t kirk · 05-31-2005, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct

For the fifth time, you should be saying, "Wow, I'm lucky that wasn't a moose."

That's the truth.

Lots of people nail a moose, only the moose is so high off the ground, they usually end up killing the driver too.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/moose.asp

catback · 06-09-2005, 04:46 PM

5th deer eh...damn I haven't even gotten my first yet.

Martian · 06-10-2005, 09:31 PM

I hate to be the detractor here, I mean that really sucks. But how fast do you drive on the back roads at night? That's nearly a deer every year, assuming your profile is accurate and you got your license as soon as you were able. I'm not saying this is your fault necessarily, but it seems like extremely bad luck.

For the record, I know all about deer on the roads. I grew up in a backwater Ontario town, with lots of deer on the wooded backroads. I've never hit one, but had a few close calls.

In an amusing semi-related story, my friend once got hit by a deer. The deer jumped out of the bush as he was passing and put a nice dent in his fender (I saw the deer slobber on his fender and door panel myself). He said he saw it staggering away in his rearview, so this one had a happy ending (minus the dented fender, of course).

catback · 06-11-2005, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Martian

I hate to be the detractor here, I mean that really sucks. But how fast do you drive on the back roads at night? That's nearly a deer every year, assuming your profile is accurate and you got your license as soon as you were able. I'm not saying this is your fault necessarily, but it seems like extremely bad luck.

For the record, I know all about deer on the roads. I grew up in a backwater Ontario town, with lots of deer on the wooded backroads. I've never hit one, but had a few close calls.

In an amusing semi-related story, my friend once got hit by a deer. The deer jumped out of the bush as he was passing and put a nice dent in his fender (I saw the deer slobber on his fender and door panel myself). He said he saw it staggering away in his rearview, so this one had a happy ending (minus the dented fender, of course).

I sense a new television show in the near future..."When deer attack"

merkerguitars · 06-11-2005, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martian

I hate to be the detractor here, I mean that really sucks. But how fast do you drive on the back roads at night? That's nearly a deer every year, assuming your profile is accurate and you got your license as soon as you were able. I'm not saying this is your fault necessarily, but it seems like extremely bad luck.

For the record, I know all about deer on the roads. I grew up in a backwater Ontario town, with lots of deer on the wooded backroads. I've never hit one, but had a few close calls.

In an amusing semi-related story, my friend once got hit by a deer. The deer jumped out of the bush as he was passing and put a nice dent in his fender (I saw the deer slobber on his fender and door panel myself). He said he saw it staggering away in his rearview, so this one had a happy ending (minus the dented fender, of course).

Most of the time at night when I know deer are running rampant I do the speed limit or only 3-5 miles over it. Plus putting on over 400 miles a week doesnt' help my luck out at all. Luckily I just got my car back together.

FngKestrel · 06-12-2005, 12:47 AM

You ever watch Straight Story? I thought of this scene as soon as I opened this thread.

Quote:

104 EXT.--DUSK RED ROAD ON HWY 18

Alvin is once again on a country road. A car passes
him. The woman driving gawks at him as she passes.
Moments later we hear off camera a screech of
brakes and a heavy thud. We see Alvin react to the
event up ahead.

CUT TO:

105 EXT.--DUSK RED ROAD HWY 18 ALVIN'S POV

Up ahead a blue Japanese subcompact is parked at a
strange angle across the shoulder of the road. The
engine is still running. Smoke rises from the hood.
The driver car door opens and a hefty woman with a
bouffant hairdo, stretch pants and a tunic gets out.
Alvin's POV slow approach. He watches her as she
walks around to the front of the car, and looks down
to the ground. She looks up to the heavens and then
begins pounding her open hand on the top of the
car hood.

CUT TO:

106 EXT.--DUSK RED ROAD HWY 18

Alvin reacts to the scene as he approaches.

CUT TO:

107 EXT.--DUSK RED ROAD HWY 18

Alvin drives up to the woman. Alvin executes his
slow dismount. The woman glances briefly at Alvin
but barely registers his presence because she is so
distraught.

ALVIN
Can I help Miss?

DEER WOMAN
No you can't help me. Jesus, Mary and
Joseph. No one can help me.

Alvin moves around to the front of the car. He notes
that the car has quite a few dents. We see that the
woman has struck a nice eight point buck. Alvin's
face shows relief. All the while the woman rants and
paces.

DEER WOMAN (cont'd)
I've tried driving with my lights on. I've
tried sounding my horn. I scream out
the window. I roll the window down
and bang on the side of the door and
play Public Enemy real loud...I have
prayed to St. Francis of Assisi...St.
Christopher too, what the hell! I have
tried everything a person can do and
still every week I plow into at least one
deer. What is it?

Alvin shakes his head. She now begins walking
around the car, the mower and Alvin. She flails her
arms.

DEER WOMAN (cont'd)
I have hit 13 deer in seven weeks driving
down this road mister and I have
to drive this road every day 40 miles
back and forth to work. I don't know
what to do...I have to drive to work
and I have to drive home...

She pauses. Takes a deep breath and looks out over
the flat landscape. She turns and pats the deer carcass.

DEER WOMAN (cont'd)
He's dead.

She starts to cry.

DEER WOMAN (cont'd)
And I love deer.

She turns and climbs back in her car. She backs up
and sprays gravel as she accelerates away. Her front
fender falls off and she runs over it. Alvin watches
her drive away, then looks down at the deer.

CUT TO:

108 EXT.--NIGHT ALVIN'S CAMPFIRE

Alvin is eating a large piece of meat. Behind Alvin
we see a full set of antlers mounted on the front of
the trailer.

MiSo · 06-13-2005, 12:55 AM

I nailed a deer coming home from work saturday night.
first one... didn't even brake or swerve.

the freakin deer jumped into my lane, got him while in the air.
it freakin sux.

05-30-2005, 01:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
merkerguitars Buffering......... Location: Wisconsin...	Well I hit my 5th deer Yup, hit my 5th one, with my nissan I just fixed up, I didn't even put more than 300 miles on it and I only had liabilty on it, I'm so pissed, i'll post pics tomorrow...damnit damnit damnit __________________ Donate now! Ask me How! Please use the search function it is your friend. Look at my mustang please feel free to comment! http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/tilted-motors/26985-my-project-84-mustang-gt.html

05-30-2005, 11:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
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05-30-2005, 12:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
JStrider Poo-tee-weet? Location: The Woodlands, TX Blog Entries: 8	oh man! that sucks... a friend of mine was telling me you can buy these little silent whistles on your bumper and they keep the deer away, i dont really know where you would get em... but might be something for you to look into... __________________ -=JStrider=- ~Clatto Verata Nicto

05-30-2005, 01:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
ngdawg peekaboo Location: on the back, bitch Blog Entries: 84	My brother in law hunts and I don't think he's bagged 5 deer in the last 15 years....maybe he should buy your car... __________________ Don't blame me. I didn't vote for either of'em.

05-30-2005, 04:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
cj2112 this space for rent Location: Grants Pass OR	this sucks balls...other than your pride, are you ok? __________________ "If gun laws in fact worked, the sponsors of this type of legislation should have no difficulty drawing upon long lists of examples of crime rates reduced by such legislation. That they cannot do so after a century and a half of trying--that they must sweep under the rug the southern attempts at gun control in the 1870-1910 period, the northeastern attempts in the 1920-1939 period, the attempts at both Federal and State levels in 1965-1976--establishes the repeated, complete and inevitable failure of gun laws to control serious crime." Senator Orrin Hatch, Chairman, Senate Judiciary Committee Subcommittee on the Constitution, 97th Cong., 2d Sess., The Right to Keep and Bear Arms, Committee Print I-IX, 1-23 (1982).

05-30-2005, 01:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
Chuckles Insane Location: California	ah man that fucking sucks!

05-30-2005, 12:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
todd Addict Location: Chicago	That really sucks. Anything under the hood damaged?

05-30-2005, 07:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
MSD Why would you ever want to be like me? Moderator Location: CT	For the fifth time, you should be saying, "Wow, I'm lucky that wasn't a moose." __________________ If you catch the evil twin, then why would you keep it alive?

05-30-2005, 07:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
merkerguitars Buffering......... Location: Wisconsin...	Yeah i'm fine...I was just all pissed off if you can imagine. I tore it apart today. I was able to get most of the brackets, trim bent into shape. The only thing that will take some work to get back together is the hood, that is seriously messed up. I found a headlight for $15 the corner light for $15 and I won't bother with the grill for now. I found a nice big chunk of venison in my fender. I'll have more pics up later. __________________ Donate now! Ask me How! Please use the search function it is your friend. Look at my mustang please feel free to comment! http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=26985

05-30-2005, 07:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
shakran Tone. Super Moderator	Don't eat the fender venison Junkyard diving for the hood should get you one for a pretty decent price really - it's not like that's a rare car. Those deer whistles are crap, but I've found what really works nicely is a set of those freaking bright driving lights PIAA makes. They light up EVERYTHING and it's pretty easy to see the light reflecting off the deer's eye. And if you get the 1100X, they're 55watts which means it's legal to have them on WITH the low beams. I don't recommend this for regular driving, but I'll admit when I'm in heavy deer country, they stay on. Main drawback is that the fake tuner crowd sees the lights, thinks I'm one of them, and wants to drag race me in traffic

06-09-2005, 04:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
catback Psycho Location: North America	5th deer eh...damn I haven't even gotten my first yet.

06-10-2005, 09:31 PM	#16 (permalink)
Martian Young Crumudgeon Location: Canada Blog Entries: 57	I hate to be the detractor here, I mean that really sucks. But how fast do you drive on the back roads at night? That's nearly a deer every year, assuming your profile is accurate and you got your license as soon as you were able. I'm not saying this is your fault necessarily, but it seems like extremely bad luck. For the record, I know all about deer on the roads. I grew up in a backwater Ontario town, with lots of deer on the wooded backroads. I've never hit one, but had a few close calls. In an amusing semi-related story, my friend once got hit by a deer. The deer jumped out of the bush as he was passing and put a nice dent in his fender (I saw the deer slobber on his fender and door panel myself). He said he saw it staggering away in his rearview, so this one had a happy ending (minus the dented fender, of course).

06-13-2005, 12:55 AM	#20 (permalink)
MiSo Insane	I nailed a deer coming home from work saturday night. first one... didn't even brake or swerve. the freakin deer jumped into my lane, got him while in the air. it freakin sux.