blktour

So has anyone seen this film yet? it opens your eyes, to think and to me that is all it does.

but i thought i would throw it here for discussion.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/statement.htm

and

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

watch this.

and discuss. i never saw it but i will tonight..

Halx

Pretty much the only thing that can scare me

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Willravel

I've seen it. It's pretty damn good.

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Sun Tzu

Wow. One of the best links Ive encounterd. Thanks for sharing. Powerful stuff there.

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IT2002

Has anyone fact-checked it?

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Willravel

Most of it. Especially the religious stuff.

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Sun Tzu

Please excuse gram msp errors, normally I put posts through word and check them, but its late so on so on. . .

Not all of it. For myself the Federal Reserve, Constitution, and a subject that wasnt mentioned in this material nor will I bring up, are areas I have focused the most time on.

In my percpetion is it true, yes. Its fucked. The more I research the angrier I get. 1992 was the last year the 1040ez form instructions had the following statement on it "Annually thousands of Americans voluntarily pay their income taxes." I had to sell out and let alot of it go, and just be cattle. Thats a terrible bleak compromise isnt it. To give in to these parasites of humanity in order to live as peaceful of an existence as possible. To tune out what is happening, to develop a habitual belief that ignores that we are (people of Earth) all connected. If I dont do this I really feel that after so much time, day after day letting the truth consume me it would drive me to do something that would get me or those I care about killed.

So I conform, and hope the greedy bastards dont take this to Iran, and other injustices that are happening in that region are righted.

Remember when you get a job- you sign a legal document with the IRS stating you are going to pay them. So dont sign the document- right then you dont get the job.

A friend of mine owned a video store in San Diego years ago. He didnt charge his customers taxes on the movies or pay himself. This was primary because he was not able to find a specific law that stated this was mandated. I began to assit him to find the law, alot of hours going through state regualtions and law books at the library. You would think something such as this would be as easy to find as the Bill of Rights. I called the California State Board of Equalization the enitity that was harrassing him by mail. I asked agent after agent to just point me in the right direction to find the law that states a person had to sign up with them to run a business. I just couldnt believe that all I got was double talk and guidance to periodicals that were not law.

What was the result? The same as it was, is, and unless something beyond all of us steps in, always will be- he lost. While I was sitting in the store talking with him one night, 5 California State Board of Equalization agents and 1 US Marshall came in told me to get out. They handcuffed him and took him away. Take him to jail? No. They took him to the California State Board of Equilization office and forced him to sign up through threat tactics. He eventually lost his store. So the moral of the story. . .

The process is exactly as they put it in the other link. They even promote they maybe you shouldnt believe any of it, but research it. In that research pay attention to the sources your using. In my opinion, especailly on the internet- in these times of instant education; research of who put that site together, research of their sources, and their sources' sources. This should be as automatic as the sifting through the material of what brought you there in the first place.

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Ramiro

great stuff! free bump, this should be a sticky, if not for just general information to others.

oh hi all. =)

cant find this on Wikipedia either, so someone should put it there and make it be known. I wont since i am a very bad informer. lol

who wants to take the initiative??

Datalife2

Thats nuts. That is also the title of the new smashing pumpkins album.

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ASU2003

That was interesting, and it's scary because it's probably true. Too bad congress, the FBI, media, or who ever will never be able to research these things and make the public aware of it.

Crack

I feel very small now.

And angry.

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Willravel

Excellent link, Ustwo. I suspected you'd like the first part of the film.

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ChiefingChef

My friends are posting this on social networking sites so often. I definitely believe parts 2 and 3, but i have a feeling that maybe all the people/legends mentioned in part 1 are actually just one thing? maybe im proven wrong by carbon dating though

Evil Milkman

It's an interesting compililation.

woOt?

It blew me away. I feel cheated, angry and taken for a fool. I hunger for revenge but don't know what to do! Guns? Revolution? Watch more porn?

Ustwo

So would you really base a revolution off of a youtube video?

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blahblah454

If the revolution involves watching more porn, then you bet your ass I would!

Willravel

Does it really matter what starts a revolution, so long as it's just?

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Baraka_Guru

Are we talking about a basis or a catalyst?

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blktour

i aggree if you feel that way about something then by all means, start something up.

as long as you believe in it. and feel that it's the right thing to do.

where to start ? hmmm..

Ustwo

Now that I could get behind.

Just, batshit insane propaganda, whatever.

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blktour

so you say........(ali g voice.)

Willravel

*Yawn*, so I guess you believe that god exists now? Or are you going to ignore half the film? Did you even watch it?

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Stiltzkin

TFP noticed this film and watched, and yet somehow the zeitgeist on TFP is to hate Ron Paul? I think that in itself blows me away just as much as the film itself.

Look at this article (state of the union): http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/state_of_union
And watch this video (David Rockefeller fears Ron Paul): NOT ONE OF THE GREAT ISSUES?!?!?! GWB is proposing a plan to fix the economy! The Fed cut interests by 3/4 of a point! Who is Rockefeller kidding?! (btw, 150bil is *nothing* compared to the 555bil GWB pushed for a few months back to spend in Iraq... GWB is such a joke)
There are just way too many signs that show how real all of this is; how can the TFP still be ignoring it? I'm sorry but I'm feeling more and more desperate every day, and I don't know what to do.
Ron Paul is being shut out of the media completely now, even though he is still one of the top 5 candidates. I had to vent somewhere.
Oh yeah, and you can't fix rampant inflation with even more rampant inflation--all that does is delay the inevitable.

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World Zeitgeist Day. Find a location and watch with friends. Or you can host a viewing (as my healing center is doing) and open it to the public.

MARCH 15th 2008

more info on the website: www.zietgeistmovie.com

People should be made aware of this stuff...I hope everyone will share it.

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blktour

now that I have watched this movie back when i did, i have come to see everyday that what is shown in this movie, is what happens in everyday stuff. should I say, I see it on TV and how the TV tries to mess with your head just for their "agenda".

It is as if no one cares in this place.

I hate to see this everyday and hate to see that this movie is making more sense each day but it actually is.

sad really.