Strange Famous

In the same way as they are of crucifix's or holy water?

In all of the media I have seen it is only Christian icons that repell them, but surely a - for example - star and crescent banner should have the same effect on them?

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Xerxys

Strange, I always thought the same thing too. I felt that if you couldn't see their image in the mirror because of their undead nature having no essence to be replicated then you couldn't photograph them then, or make a video either. But they have distorted all vampire lore and brought on so many versions and myths about them the only mythical creature that remains intact is Santa Claus.

I still prefer the vampire from count Dracula.

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The_Jazz

mmmmm, sparkly.

Strange, that's a very interesting idea. You'd think that one would translate to the other, but what about Bhuddism and animism?

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kutulu

My guess would be that in the land of vampires Christianity is the 'true and correct' religion. Therefore Islamic, Bhuddist, etc. symbols would have the same effect as a paper clip since they are not tied to 'real religions'

hunnychile

Just goes to show that they (Vampires) don't really exist except in the movies made by Christians or Goys.

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Plan9

Pfft, this only proves that there is One True God.

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inBOIL

This is probably it. I've heard that genies can be trapped in ther bottles by the seal of Muhammad, or somthing like that. My guess is that they would be unaffected by Christian imagery.

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Reese

I think it has more to do with the item being blessed than it has to do with the validity of a religion in the vampire world. Water for instance is just water until it's blessed by a priest and becomes holy water.

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Daniel_

WHat about Chinese vampire mythology? I don't know much about it, but I did once have a flatmate that loved 70's horror films, and he used to go on about how Chinese vampires needed different techniques to kill them.

I vaguely recall watching Christopher Lee and/or Vincent Price in a Chinese vampire film from the late 70s.

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dlish

theres no such thing as islamic imagery. pictures of icons, symbolism and statues are not permitted in islam for various reasons

i guess that makes vampires scared of islam?

i personally carry around silver bullets with me anywhere i go. i'd hate to think i'd get killed by a vampire or werewolf without having a backup plan if i chose the wrong religion.

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Leto

what are goys?

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Xerxys

Do you throw them at the vampires? Or does your keychain assemble to form that plastic gun I saw at the movies used to get passed metal detectors?

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Baraka_Guru

It's not whether the vampire is "scared" so much as what repels them.

Plant matter such as hawthorne and oak have been used for such purposes. And garlic of course.

Then there is the restriction preventing vampires from entering sacred ground. I'm sure this would include mosques as well as churches.

It all comes down to the "power" that does the repelling. If you consider Islam, it is a religion that taps into the same deity. If you look at the things that repel vampires, they are tools from "God's universe" used to repel or otherwise fight evil.

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Redlemon

"Goy" usually means anyone who is not Jewish. Not sure how it applies to hunnychile's statement.

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Plan9

Wait... what do you do for a living, again?

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LordEden

There is a scene in a movie, I can not remember the title of it to save my life, that a character holds up various symbols of faith in front of a vampire/demon til one worked. It all stuck me as funny and wondered if you could just mount every major religious symbol on a staff and wave it at anything that came along. Like a Staff of Holy +3 or something.

Personally, I think it's a faith/holy thing. If the person wielding the symbol believes it is a focal point for all things good, then all things evil must be repelled against it. If a vampire is pure evil of the most unholy kind, then anything that represents a holy object or god must work against it. Evil is evil and holy is holy.

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Baraka_Guru

I'm just an editor, which basically means I have all kinds of trivia and encyclopedic knowledge trapped in my head.

I could be wrong on practice.

Shit. Where the fuck is Corey Feldman when you need him?

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LordEden

The Frog Brothers reporting in, O' Cap-e-tan!

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mixedmedia

I thank god, allah and KC & the Sunshine Band (just to be safe) that I didn't have to grow up in the '80s.

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LordEden

I never watched Lost Boys til about a year ago. I wasn't tortured by it till I was old enough to make fun of it.

"Oh Fuck! Jack Bauer is in this movie?!? Where is the time clock? Does he eat or use the bathroom in this movie? How can he save the world if he can't go out during the day?"

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mixedmedia

yeah, I believe you


jk *me lies in wait for LordEden to post in the 'start a rumor' thread*

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Plan9

Yeah, an editor of vampire lives! You're a slayer, aren't you? I knew it. Hah!

I will now associate you with James Woods' character in that John Carpenter flick.

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Baraka_Guru

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dlish

no i chew the silver bullets. my body temperature is so high that they become molten. i then proceed to spew the silver at the attacking beasts whicheither kills them or drives them away.

it works just like schrapnel.

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fresnelly

Uh, Vampires aren't real so they can be afraid of whatever you want them to be.

For example, I know for a fact that Vampires are deathly afraid of Pergo flooring.

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Baraka_Guru

Yeah, and the world is round like an apple.

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dlish

fres.. i have no idea what kind of world you live in, but duh! you obviously have reality issues

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Xerxys

You know you could just contact cromps and have him issue you silver grenades.

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dlish

trying to stay under the radar with my sleepy cell.

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Plan9

Baraka, you are my one true love.

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jimk

the vampires on True Blood seemed a bit unnerved by the Maenad.......

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Seaver

Genies are not the same in Islamic culture as they are translated into our ideas.

They derive from Djinn, which are actually evil spirits or mini-devils. They live to trick and tempt people, and generally act like fallen angels.

The part of being trapped in a bottle is moot, it's trapped by the symbols which represent the power of God. Much like the Cross is not what stops Vampires, but the power which is transferred through it.

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Plan9

Well, at least I know where I can rustle up some Level 10 Mega Nerds the next time I wanna rockin' game of D&D.

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m0rpheus

In Richard Matheson's I Am Legend the vampires were affected by the holy symbols of whatever religion they were before becoming a vampire. IE a Christian vampire fears crosses while a non-christian vampire doesn't care about them at all.

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LordEden

Dude, I will drive to DC if I can play D&D with you. Even if you are being sarcastic.

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Baraka_Guru

Doesn't 4.0 have a tool for online play?

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LordEden

I would be down in a heartbeat for an online Tilted D&D session. There are many different programs for we could use to communicate, have sharable maps, roll dice, and use virtual manuals. Almost all of have web cams, as most of the regulars have been on web chat before. I wish we could do this, as I can't find a group around here that I can join that I am not surrounded by bitter virgins. Let's do this.

/endgeekout
/endthreadjack

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Strange Famous

I go along with the idea that it is the religious belief of the person using the symbolic article that determines its effect. A devout Muslim should be able to drive away a vampire with a copy of the Qu'ran as well as a Christian can with a cross. It is the chanelling of the holy against the corruption of the vampire which has the effect I think.

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Walt

Islamic art was huge in the 15th-17th century. The artists were revered in much the same way that Christian artists were in the same time period.

http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/t...lamic-art.html

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