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jaker · 08-18-2008, 02:59 AM

Hello!

Here is a text that Richard Tuttle published about his work for the Documenta 7 in Kassel, Germany.
However, I am having trouble understanding one of the sentences (highlighted here)
perhaps someone can help me with understanding this equation....?

If you want the whole text (it continues) just let me know! I left it out for condensation's sake

Just as we have no concern for other people, we have no concern for ourselves. We have a common concern for infinity which we can only think of as indefinite, real, and in, absolute. To believe, as we do, that heaven exists for the chosen is a denial of everything and anything rational in the Small letter universe. Therefore, I would say, that our denial of any principle less than equal to denial of reality is in itself greater than equal to that denial. Absolute positivism suffers from Utopian ideals, and there is not and never has been a reality greater than the excruciation of its absolute realization. If this be the case, we are left with nothing other than this impulse to impede ourselves. In other words, you go on.

Jetée · 08-18-2008, 03:30 AM

What I gather from the brief excerpt:

We suffer from the delusion that whatever may come to pass, there will always be an accompanying happenstance to follow, i.e. "there's always a tomorrow" or because most choose to believe and act upon forces that are yet to be proven and therefore, hold no merit in the lives we lead now, we are exercising futility.

What I garner the critique is advocating is to compel 'tomorrow to come today', and actively shape our being in a grounded reality in an effort to understand that by simply working may and will not be enough to foster true understanding, and it is a mere excuse to halt or delay what is necessary for human growth.

I could be contradicting myself though, in that sentiment. Leaving out the sentence that may hinder your grasp on what is being expressed, do you have at all an idea at what the overall aim is and what Tuttle is conveying?

jaker · 08-19-2008, 02:08 AM

Jetée, thanks for your reply!
Tuttle's work is very closely related to Zen, the here and now. Which I think all true art is - not a reflection of past or future but play in the now.
To understand his work, you must get stupid, let it go, or as Rimbaus wrote, 'reach' a dissoluteness of all the senses, the way in which we can be
I am still having a hard time visualizing this equation though (less than equal to equal to etc)
I tried to sketch it, but still couldnt get it...

08-18-2008, 02:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
jaker Crazy Join Date: May 2003 Location: Germany	Work is justification for the Excuse... Hello! Here is a text that Richard Tuttle published about his work for the Documenta 7 in Kassel, Germany. However, I am having trouble understanding one of the sentences (highlighted here) perhaps someone can help me with understanding this equation....? If you want the whole text (it continues) just let me know! I left it out for condensation's sake Just as we have no concern for other people, we have no concern for ourselves. We have a common concern for infinity which we can only think of as indefinite, real, and in, absolute. To believe, as we do, that heaven exists for the chosen is a denial of everything and anything rational in the Small letter universe. Therefore, I would say, that our denial of any principle less than equal to denial of reality is in itself greater than equal to that denial. Absolute positivism suffers from Utopian ideals, and there is not and never has been a reality greater than the excruciation of its absolute realization. If this be the case, we are left with nothing other than this impulse to impede ourselves. In other words, you go on.

08-18-2008, 03:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
Jetée Is It Real? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rarely, if ever, here or there, but always in transition	What I gather from the brief excerpt: We suffer from the delusion that whatever may come to pass, there will always be an accompanying happenstance to follow, i.e. "there's always a tomorrow" or because most choose to believe and act upon forces that are yet to be proven and therefore, hold no merit in the lives we lead now, we are exercising futility. What I garner the critique is advocating is to compel 'tomorrow to come today', and actively shape our being in a grounded reality in an effort to understand that by simply working may and will not be enough to foster true understanding, and it is a mere excuse to halt or delay what is necessary for human growth. I could be contradicting myself though, in that sentiment. Leaving out the sentence that may hinder your grasp on what is being expressed, do you have at all an idea at what the overall aim is and what Tuttle is conveying? __________________ The truth is that our finest moments are most likely to occur when we are feeling deeply uncomfortable, unhappy, or unfulfilled. For it is only in such moments, propelled by our discomfort, that we are likely to step out of our ruts and start searching for different ways or truer answers. —M. Scott Peck

08-19-2008, 02:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
jaker Crazy Join Date: May 2003 Location: Germany	Jetée, thanks for your reply! Tuttle's work is very closely related to Zen, the here and now. Which I think all true art is - not a reflection of past or future but play in the now. To understand his work, you must get stupid, let it go, or as Rimbaus wrote, 'reach' a dissoluteness of all the senses, the way in which we can be I am still having a hard time visualizing this equation though (less than equal to equal to etc) I tried to sketch it, but still couldnt get it...