Rekna

McCain is a gaffe machine. Almost daily he is tripping over his own words saying things that are completely wrong. Is he senile, stupid, or blatantly lying?

Examples of this:

Iran is training Al'Queda:

Iraq borders Pakistan:

My new personal favorite, nations don't invade other nations (unless it is the US)

Others:

McCain confuses the Packers and the Steelers (or was he just pandering).
McCain volunteers his wife for a topless beauty contest...
McCain schedules a speech on an oil platform to promote offshore drilling but has to cancel because of a giant oil spill!
McCain's economic adviser says recession is just a figment of our imagination and we are just whining.
McCain refers to Czechoslovakia.
McCain says the sunni awakening happened after the Surge (sorry other way around).
McCain says no to a timetable, Iraq says yes...
McCain misstates the number of economists that support his plan.
McCain says he doesn't really know much about economics (on video) then says I never said that!

Combine this with McCain's numerous flip flops.

I'm sure I could continue for another few pages but I think I made my point

If Obama were to mess up like this he would be eaten alive by the media yet McCain gets passes on these. For example, Obama gives a speech in Germany the media says he is being presumptuous, McCain does his own diplomatic mission to Georgia...not one mention of him being presumptuous.

So what do you think is McCain senile, stupid, or dishonest?

Jinn

Is there an option for "all of the above"?

And as much as my bias agrees with your bias, I have to admit that I don't see this discussion going well. Staunch McCain supporters will deny the media is giving him a pass and instead say that Obama is getting a pass, and/or claim that Obama flipflops more than McCain. Obama supporters will agree with you.

Unfortunately someone's inability to speak accurately seems to have VERY LITTLE effect on the electorate. I decried Bush's absolutely terrible understanding of English and his inability to report facts accurately in 2000, but to most people it doesn't seem to matter.

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Willravel

He's trying to lie, but he's a bit too far gone to do it as successfully as, say, a Bill Clinton or George H. W. Bush (W. Bush, of course, is simply not intelligent enough to convincingly lie).

It's a shame some people don't have "smart" on their list of presidential attributes. I'm not saying intellect is the end all be all of presidencies, but an oval office with under a 90 IQ is likely to see a lot of problems.

dc_dux

Give the man a break....he graduated 894th out of 899 in his class at the Naval Academy!

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mixedmedia

Maybe he figures...it worked for GW.

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ratbastid

I think he sometimes just doesn't think before he talks--the "bold, free-wheeling, straight-shooting maverick" thing. Worked for him when he was actually campaigning on things he believed, but now his campaign has gone into tack-right pander mode, and what he has to say isn't natural for him anymore, and things get wacky.

His campaign has been saying very strange things lately about "keeping the candidate focused on the campaign's message". VERY strange thing to say. Makes one wonder exactly what we're supposed to be voting for, when we vote McCain.

Other times, I think he just talks out his ass and isn't used to having every utterance scrutinized. He pulled the "Iran training Al Qaida" thing straight out of his ass. It's clear he was making that up as he went along. And the "Iraq/Pakistan border" thing was a bluff--if you watch closely, he's practically daring us to check that fact. It's all over him that he wants us to think he knows something we don't. He wants to come off as informed, so he makes up some information that sounds plausible.

I think if he was seriously senile, it'd be harder for him to string thoughts together. He's not incoherent. He just has CRS syndrome.

filtherton

Wasn't Reagan senile for most of his last term. Isn't he like Jesus for Republicans?

I think Americans like voting for people who remind them of their grandparents.

ottopilot

All 57 states are safe with Obama

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Seaver

Better than Grant... and he was the Supreme Union Commander AND President.

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matthew330

"you forgot ugly, lazy, and disrespect....SHUT-UP BITCH!"

I can't believe you wasted the time to put this together....I find it hard to believe you haven't heard some of the dumb shit Obama has said, but be my guest check it out on this cool thing called goodle or something where you can search stuff like that.

Obama must have early onset Alzheimer's, or probably got like a 200 on his SAT's and graduated 3 in his class of like a million. What an IDIOT!! He needs to be impeached cause if he wins he stole it probably using those hanging chads and butterfly's to fool older people in states that have them.

I almost want this guy to be elected. The future of America is almost not worth another 4 years of this shit.

ratbastid

By the way, anybody else think it's an indicator of the direction the wind's blowing that Obama's name is getting spelled correctly everywhere at long last, and "Mc'Cain" is getting a new apostrophe?

djtestudo

Ding, ding, ding.

Even I don't care that Obama said that, but if people are going to bullshit about McCain then it deserves to be brought into the discussion.

Look at his presidency; bad example

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mixedmedia

I've noticed this, too.

Mc'Cain? What the...

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samcol

Is the pope catholic?

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ottopilot

Is Obama an empty suit?

oh no he didn't!

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samcol

Yes.

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Baraka_Guru

Ugh! I can't believe that Stephen Harper is looking like the strongest, most competent leader in North America!

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Rekna

I'm fully aware of the gaffes Obama has made also. The difference is Obama's gaffes are talked about for a week on all the news stations that love to follow fox news' lead. McCain's are never mentioned.

Remember when Obama gave a speech that included words from a friend of his? He got accused of plagiarism for weeks. McCain just ripped part of his speech from Wikipedia and the media is mum on it. (Of course the true crime is he used Wikipedia as a reliable source....)

roachboy

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Rekna

Now Georgia is the first serious crisis since the end of the cold war... i guess 9/11, Iraq 1, Iraq 2, etc were not serious....

ottopilot

The clip does not begin at the start of his comments, nor does it include the remainder of his commentary. It's possible that's all he said, but I firmly believe he understands all of these events in their proper perspective. I also believe it's disingenuous for the media to suggest otherwise. However, the consequences of unchallenged Russian aggression in Eastern Europe could easily eclipse any of those events you mentioned.

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djtestudo

I'm not watching the clip, but I'll take a guess that the involvement of Russia was either implied or cut from the clip.

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Rekna

Of course what McCain fails to mention is Georgia was the aggressor and Russia responded to their aggression. I'm not saying Russia was right to do what they did but Georgia is not innocent at all. In fact, the closest example of this happening in the past was when Saddam invaded Kuwait and in response the US invaded Iraq. Anyway it is irrelevant to the fact that he is claiming that Iraq 1 & 2, 9/11, Afganastan, Darfur, Sudan, Kosovo, and many others were not serious.

dc_dux

The media has every right to question McCain's statements on Georgia in light of the fact that his top foreign policy advisor was, until very recently, a paid lobbyist for Georgia:
Just one of the many lobbyists with foreign government contracts in the McCain (the anti-lobbyist candidate) inner circle.

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