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Strange Famous · 03-03-2009, 11:31 AM

I was very surprised to come here this evening and find nothing on this, unless I have missed it.

We all know that terror exists in this world, but for an attack like this to occur, in a place where cricket is a religion second only to Islam is unthinkable and appalling.

I believe that these deviants have gone too far and have lost all hope at this time. Any organisation which practices intimidation can only exist if tolerated by the people or the state - and after this neither will be the case. No one will shelter them now: individually and as a group their cards are marked.

Sport is the great uniting force in this world - more so than politics ever can be. And it must be defended with all available force from these pathetic half-men, these terrorist animals.

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Pakistan should play at neutral venues - ICC chief

The future of international cricket in Pakistan is in doubt following Tuesday's attack, the International Cricket Council has said.

Seven Sri Lanka players were injured in Lahore on their team bus, while six policemen escorting it were killed.

ICC chief executive Haroon Lorgat said: "Perhaps for some time Pakistan should consider playing at neutral venues. Rather play some cricket than none.

"I'm not sure any team would be ready to play cricket in Pakistan."

The Test series with Sri Lanka, which is the first to be played in Pakistan since October 2007, was called off after the tragic incident in Lahore.

Australia withdrew from a scheduled tour to Pakistan in March last year after security concerns amid the unrest which followed the assassination of former prime minister Benazir Bhutto.

The ICC also postponed the planned Champions Trophy as a result of problems and India's proposed tour was cancelled because of strained relations between the two nations.

But the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has called for the country not be abandoned by the cricket community.

"I will only say what happened today is a great tragedy," said PCB spokesman and former Test skipper Wasim Bari.

"At a time when terrorist attacks are taking place all over the world, Pakistan cricket should not be abandoned or isolated.

ICC needs to play bigger role - Iqbal
"It is very easy now to just say 'lets stop going to Pakistan', but we need the support of the international cricket community. We can still hold international matches. Terrorists have tried to hit cricket targets in other countries as well."
New Zealand were expected to tour in November but there are sure to be major doubts about that trip going ahead.

Lorgat added: "It's very unfortunate for the people in Pakistan who love the game so much and have been very desperate to see international cricket but I'm afraid that situation is very desperate now.

"If this is the situation it's going to be very difficult to see them being part of hosting the World Cup."

The country is nominally one of the co-hosts of the 2011 event, along with India, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.

But although Lorgat believes staging matches there is not viable in the near future, ICC chairman David Morgan says no decision has yet been taken regarding the World Cup.

"I believe that there is currently great reluctance - and rightly so - for players to return at this time," he said.

"But the future situation needs not be perpetuated as it is today.

"We must not believe that Pakistan is going to be unsafe forever and ever, and we must hope that it won't be unsafe for too long.

"Teams should not be expected to go there in the immediate future but things can change and change quickly.

"The World Cup is due to be shared between four countries. MIHIR BOSE BLOG
Pakistani cricket officials and supporters have always argued that whatever happens no terrorist would ever dare target cricketers

"That is the current plan and the board will have to think carefully about the extent to which Pakistan will be used in that event.

"We need to be careful of a knee-jerk reaction. The World Cup is two years away."

In light of the attacks, questions have been raised regarding the security arrangements afforded to the Sri Lanka team, with former Pakistan captain Imran Khan particularly scathing.

He said: "I think this was one of the worst security failures in Pakistan.

"The Pakistani government guaranteed the Sri Lankan team that they would provide them with security.

Former Pakistan captain Imran Khan has been critical of Sri Lanka's security

"To see the type of security provided to the Sri Lankan team was completely shameful.

"Most ministers in Pakistan have better security than that provided to the Sri Lankan team."

Despite the criticism, Morgan said the ICC would not be intervening to oversee Test match security arrangements - the responsibility for which currently lies with the two nations involved.

He said: "The ICC only becomes directly involved in safety and security if there is a disagreement between the host and visitor.

"There was no disagreement and we weren’t involved in assessing security."

highthief · 03-03-2009, 02:38 PM

It's a terrible situation - unfortunately, it's not new is it? Munich 72.

I imagine Pak will have to play it's games in Dubai or England for the next little while.

spindles · 03-03-2009, 04:02 PM

The umpires were in a second mini-bus behind the Sri Lankan team. I heard the Aussie (Steve Davis) interviewed on the radio this morning - and it sounded like a terrifying experience. Their driver was killed and he said they were stuck in the bus for quite a while with the (local Pakistani) TV umpire shot as well (but not killed). I reckon you'd try to get out of the country and never go back.

Geoff Lawson used to be the Pakistani coach and was pushing Oz to tour last year - he was also on the radio and he was shocked - he really never thought that this kind of attack would happen.

dlish · 03-03-2009, 05:07 PM

and here i was only last week listing some of the worst moments in history when the israeli athletes were killed..

this has to be up there.

no justification can ever be made for this sort of thing. pakistan has just lost the only thing it had left going for it. international cricket. you reap what you sow.

its unfortunate, but im really starting to get fed up with the way things run in pakistan.

guccilvr · 03-03-2009, 06:06 PM

I hadn't heard about this until it was posted here..

granted, I have minimal exposure to cricket and only understand the basics of the game..but this is terrible. I can't blame the Paki's cricket team..but the Pakistani goverment promised security and from what I gather from the article it was pale in comparison to what former ministers have given for security.. sad.

dlish · 03-04-2009, 05:29 PM

front page news in australia and UK gucci.

sad day for pakistan. sad day for sport in general

guccilvr · 03-04-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dlish

front page news in australia and UK gucci.

sad day for pakistan. sad day for sport in general

not front page in the US.. the US is oblivious to cricket and rugby.

but yes it is sad for all parties..

highthief · 03-05-2009, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by guccilvr

not front page in the US.. the US is oblivious to cricket and rugby.

More like the US is oblivious to most things going on beyond it's borders, nothing to do with cricket.

guccilvr · 03-05-2009, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by highthief

More like the US is oblivious to most things going on beyond it's borders, nothing to do with cricket.

point given..

03-03-2009, 02:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
highthief Junkie Location: Ontario, Canada	It's a terrible situation - unfortunately, it's not new is it? Munich 72. I imagine Pak will have to play it's games in Dubai or England for the next little while. __________________ Si vis pacem parabellum.

03-03-2009, 04:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
spindles Mine is an evil laugh Location: Sydney, Australia	The umpires were in a second mini-bus behind the Sri Lankan team. I heard the Aussie (Steve Davis) interviewed on the radio this morning - and it sounded like a terrifying experience. Their driver was killed and he said they were stuck in the bus for quite a while with the (local Pakistani) TV umpire shot as well (but not killed). I reckon you'd try to get out of the country and never go back. Geoff Lawson used to be the Pakistani coach and was pushing Oz to tour last year - he was also on the radio and he was shocked - he really never thought that this kind of attack would happen. __________________ who hid my keyboard's PANIC button?

03-03-2009, 05:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
dlish Currently sour but formerly Dlishs Moderator Location: Australia/UAE Blog Entries: 11	and here i was only last week listing some of the worst moments in history when the israeli athletes were killed.. this has to be up there. no justification can ever be made for this sort of thing. pakistan has just lost the only thing it had left going for it. international cricket. you reap what you sow. its unfortunate, but im really starting to get fed up with the way things run in pakistan. __________________ An injustice anywhere, is an injustice everywhere "Romance is never having to apologize for getting it in her hair" - World's King

03-03-2009, 06:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
guccilvr THE drama Super Moderator Location: NC USA Blog Entries: 56	I hadn't heard about this until it was posted here.. granted, I have minimal exposure to cricket and only understand the basics of the game..but this is terrible. I can't blame the Paki's cricket team..but the Pakistani goverment promised security and from what I gather from the article it was pale in comparison to what former ministers have given for security.. sad. __________________ ...We were the victims of ourselves Maybe the children of a lesser god... the best thing about music..is when it hits you.. there's no pain. ~~Bob Marley~~ Have a question about TFP in General? CLICK THIS

03-04-2009, 05:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
dlish Currently sour but formerly Dlishs Moderator Location: Australia/UAE Blog Entries: 11	front page news in australia and UK gucci. sad day for pakistan. sad day for sport in general __________________ An injustice anywhere, is an injustice everywhere "Romance is never having to apologize for getting it in her hair" - World's King