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So here it is, the long awaited iPhone from the trendiest electronics company in the world, Apple.
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And as if that wasn't enough, Apple released the new appleTV, the little box that lets you do iTunes from your TV and stereo system.

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cyrnel

I would very much like to see one in person. Too bad it's 6mo out.

It'll be interesting to see if Apple can simplify the cell plans. What's standard? What's optional? A mish-mash of "extras" could easily ruin it.

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captobvious

The iPhone looks pretty sweet. The only thing in my way is the $500 price tag. Guess I better start saving now...

Willravel

I would have hoped that Apple would have made deals with Cingular, Verizon and Sprint/Nextel, but I guess I'll be switching from Verizon to Cingular for this one. Sh*t.

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JJRousseau

I've just got to have one of those!!!! (iPhone, I mean)

i thought Apple wouldn't be able to use the "iPhone" name as it was owned by an VOIP company.

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fresnelly

I'll be waiting a couple of years until the major content producers finally come around to multi-level distribution before I buy such a device.

I just don't think the top quality content is as free and fully available yet to be worth the high cost. Some day.

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ASU2003

I wish they would sell one without the phone. Just WiFi, BlueTooth, camera, widescreen iPod, etc... everything except for the phone.

Adding in a GPS would be a great add-on.

Redjake

Amen. A lot of us are in binding contracts with service providers already! I would kill to have a handheld that sleek and small and FUNCTIONABLE! Now if they can just get WoW on one of those.....

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Charlatan

That phone looks sweet! I have been drooling over it all day.

Sadly they say it will not be available in Asia until 2008. I guess I will just have to buy one and then get it unlocked.

As for the price, what does it cost for a phone, a pda and an ipod separately?


Not sure about the iTV thing. I am still figuring out exactly what sort of home entertainment system I am going to buy when I finally move in July.

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guccilvr

When I first saw the phone I was creaming. Then I really took a look. There will be no 3g or CDMA support. That means it's going to bomb in Europe without 3g. I'm on a CDMA network and will not switch to crap ass Cingular just for this phone. I'm also curious about the glass on the phone. Is it glass or is it the same poly they use on the new generation of iPod Nano's??

As far as the iTV, I have no real comment as I know I'd never use anything like that.

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THGL

Jobs mentioned that 3G is in the works.

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guccilvr

I didn't watch the keynote so I guess that the person I talked to failed to mention that. Did he mention anything about CDMA??

The iTV box really could use some sort of DVR function (unless I've totally missed something there as well)

I found this to be pretty interesting.

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Charlatan

I haven't seen a thing about CDMA. It looks like it will be GSM only for now.

I predict that if it is successful, it will get a CDMA version within a year or so just like Palm did with the Treo.

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Rekna

Don't give into the hype.... Apple thrives on over hyping things and then selling a sub par product. There are much better much more fully featured mp3 players than the ipod.

Willravel

80% of the mp3 market is hype? The fact of the matter is that features are not the only benchmark by which to gauge a product, and Apple has proven that in the iPod. Also, so far as features are concerned, it seems the iPhone has litterally descimated the market as far as features on a phone. It's quite simply better than everything else.

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Rekna

It also costs way to much and has a limited market making its potential for large amounts of sales poor. Look at the ps3 and how it has bombed. Don't forget that since it is cingular only many people won't want or won't have a chance to buy it.

Willravel

You should take a gander at the keynote speech, as it addresses your points.

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guccilvr

Here's a decent look at the phone and features

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgW7or1TuFk

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healer

The gadget-loving geek in me is having an orgasm right now!

Am I the only one that thinks it's not that expensive? I'd definitely think about getting one after they work out all the kinks (3G/CDMA/HSDPA).

So now I know what I want for xmas this year.

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Willravel

Healer, I totally agree. When you consider what you're getting, you are actually getting a decent price. Also, I'll bet the price drops off before Christmas 2007 (Cingular will be pushing for that).

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DDDDave

I don't know.

I have a Treo700W and it already does all those things. E-mail-3 accounts, check. Outlook contact manager, check. One touch dialing, check. Entire device accessible through voice commands, check for the Treo, ???on iphone. MP3 player, check. Media Player, check. Camera, check. Google maps-check. EDGE network, fast, stable. Great phone features(could be better though).

I certainly understand that my phone is part of the MS evil empire but hey, it works for me. My old Treo600 broke after 2 years, and the 700P wasn't out yet so I ended up with the 700W.

The bottom line is that it is hard to be all things to all people in a single device. I think the reason that the iPod has become ubiquitous is that they have refined the music player user interface to a very fine level. But it really only performs one function. Trying to make a fantastic user experience for a device that performs so many different functions is difficult at best and pretty close to impossible. Couple that with the fact that it is (at least initially) tied to a single carrier and I think that it will not be the hit that everyone thinks it will be.

That being said....It sure is cool. As a geek you have to be impressed.

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Willravel

Ah, but the Treo doesn't have a full OS, widescreen video playback, a touch sreen (espically a touch screen like the iPhone), that awesome little sensor that turns off the touch screen when your head is near the phone, it doesn't come with it's own wireless headset, and it doesn't look as cool. Does the Treo have a digital camera? Oh, and does the Trio let you choose which voice mail you want to listen to? Also, I don'[t think the Trio is as thin as the iPhone.

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Frosstbyte

Apple is being so stupid by making an exclusive contract with Cingular. What a boneheaded move. It's a neat gadget, but why wouldn't Apple make it more available than just one-and not the most popular-wireless carrier?

I was very disappointed to hear that people can't code widgets etc. for the iPhone as well. After all the development of widgets for OSX, it would be a really neat thing to be able to do on a mobile device like this. I think the design is really beautiful and the device has tons of potential. I think, however, I'll be waiting for the second generation for them to make it more available and work the kinks out.

That all being said, Apple as a company really makes me want to puke. They've got such an ego about how incredible they are, and it's really getting old. No one can contest the popularity or success of the iPod (I certainly love mine) or the benefits of their OS, but the recent PC v. Mac commercials and just going ahead and announcing the device without getting things squared away with Cisco really reiterates a corporate philosophy that makes me gag and wish they weren't putting out products that I want. MS is the devil, but they don't make any bones about being the devil. Mac's hardly got clean hands, but they want you to believe they're a hip, progressive company working hard against the man. Leaves a foul taste in my mouth.

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guccilvr

I was under the impression that the iPhone or whatever it will be named will have the capability of widgets?

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Charlatan

I was just thinking that it wasn't that long ago that the topic of discussion for Apple was, "how long will it be until Apple goes under?"<