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muller · 09-20-2003, 12:49 PM

Just trying to set up a community based project with wireless access to the internet in a town with just 2,000 folks living there, any ideas as to how we can market it and make it work. this is not for profit

JStrider · 09-20-2003, 02:04 PM

well... youll need the super fast connection that everyones gonna share... prolly atleast t1 or t3 i would think... then ya gotta get a central antena.... and everyone thats gonna use it will need a directional antena aimed exactly at the main one... and hills and all that will mess with the reception... its line of sight...

also... if its gonna have a range of over a mile or 2 you need to get some permits or something with the fcc...

look up 802.11 B thats the wireless protocal thats standard these days...

charliex · 09-20-2003, 02:18 PM

check out SFLAN http://www.archive.org/web/sflan.php

i was hoping to do the same in my neighbourhood, SFLAN already has theirs up..

Its not cheap or easy, but usually youll get a lot of techies involved that have a lot of the equipment

muller · 09-21-2003, 08:22 AM

and the swift response. I should have mentioned that I am in Europe - in Ireland to be precise where we have got a cash grant of about 100,000 dollars from the Government to produce this service but are still finding the costs very high from day to day. We would have to bill our ordinary customers about 60 dollars a month at the present pricing structure. Can anybody think of ways of bringing down the costs or using the wireless internet service for any other uses - we have full broadband access

Sapper · 09-21-2003, 02:52 PM

This is a very cool concept !!

Down with ISPs!!

jfranco13 · 09-21-2003, 03:32 PM

If you find an old satellite dish and put the wireless antenna in there... should give you a big signal boost. Or so I've heard anyway. Not sure if that helps or not, or exactly how it works, but I'd guess it's something similar to this:

http://wire.less.dk/static/cantennahowto_metric.html

brandon11983 · 09-22-2003, 12:55 PM

I've been thinking of doing something this recently. However I would do it for profit. My downfall is that I am approaching it from the "side project" point of view, and not a "full time job" point of view. Cuz once it's all up and running, shit will go wrong somewhere sometime when I can't be there to fix it. It would probably need to be profitable enough for me to have a tech that I could call on for service work when I'm tied up at work.

BuDDaH · 09-22-2003, 01:50 PM

Where in Europe, might I ask?
I am currently helping a friend get his dream of covering the whole Lower East Side in Manhattan, NYC.

We just finished putting up our antenna array and repeaters so we have covered what you are about to do.

Mr Mephisto · 09-22-2003, 02:18 PM

He's in Ireland. Reread the post.

Muller, please ping me offline. I work for a major producer of wireless equipment (both LAN and WAN), and have been involved in many projects exactly like this.

Coincidently I'm also Irish, not that that matters, but I thought it was funny.

I may be able to offer you some advice.

Mr Mephisto

muller · 09-22-2003, 04:30 PM

We are basically a community development group which is trying to convince the residents of a small town to go on line with a wireless broadband project. We need suggestions as to any devices we could use to convince them and /or ideas about how to hook a strategic partner with cash for the project - in this part of the world (Ireland) All ideas welcome

Cynthetiq · 09-22-2003, 05:13 PM

guiness ... strategic partner

here's what I found from Ireland's area.....

http://www.nodedb.com/ireland/

contact some of those node owners.

yotta · 09-22-2003, 05:16 PM

Check out the WISP fourm on DSL reports. I actualy work for a WISP, but we provide access at apartment complexes. You should look in to using 5.8 GHz gear. Check out the offerings of trango and proxim.

09-20-2003, 12:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
muller Rookie Join Date: Sep 2003	wireless internet project Just trying to set up a community based project with wireless access to the internet in a town with just 2,000 folks living there, any ideas as to how we can market it and make it work. this is not for profit

09-20-2003, 02:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
JStrider Poo-tee-weet? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Woodlands, TX	well... youll need the super fast connection that everyones gonna share... prolly atleast t1 or t3 i would think... then ya gotta get a central antena.... and everyone thats gonna use it will need a directional antena aimed exactly at the main one... and hills and all that will mess with the reception... its line of sight... also... if its gonna have a range of over a mile or 2 you need to get some permits or something with the fcc... look up 802.11 B thats the wireless protocal thats standard these days... __________________ -=JStrider=- ~Clatto Verata Nicto

09-21-2003, 08:22 AM	#4 (permalink)
muller Rookie Join Date: Sep 2003	thanks for the advice and the swift response. I should have mentioned that I am in Europe - in Ireland to be precise where we have got a cash grant of about 100,000 dollars from the Government to produce this service but are still finding the costs very high from day to day. We would have to bill our ordinary customers about 60 dollars a month at the present pricing structure. Can anybody think of ways of bringing down the costs or using the wireless internet service for any other uses - we have full broadband access

09-21-2003, 02:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
Sapper Insane Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Internet	This is a very cool concept !! Down with ISPs!! __________________ rm -f /bin/laden

09-21-2003, 03:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
jfranco13 Crazy Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	If you find an old satellite dish and put the wireless antenna in there... should give you a big signal boost. Or so I've heard anyway. Not sure if that helps or not, or exactly how it works, but I'd guess it's something similar to this: http://wire.less.dk/static/cantennahowto_metric.html __________________ We may lose, and we may win, but we will never be here again.

09-20-2003, 02:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
charliex Junkie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North Hollywood	check out SFLAN http://www.archive.org/web/sflan.php i was hoping to do the same in my neighbourhood, SFLAN already has theirs up.. Its not cheap or easy, but usually youll get a lot of techies involved that have a lot of the equipment

09-22-2003, 12:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
brandon11983 Stereophonic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chitown!!	I've been thinking of doing something this recently. However I would do it for profit. My downfall is that I am approaching it from the "side project" point of view, and not a "full time job" point of view. Cuz once it's all up and running, shit will go wrong somewhere sometime when I can't be there to fix it. It would probably need to be profitable enough for me to have a tech that I could call on for service work when I'm tied up at work. __________________ Well behaved women rarely make history.

09-22-2003, 01:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
BuDDaH The Matrix had a point... Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 10th Mountain ASB Fort Drum, N.Y.	Where in Europe, might I ask? I am currently helping a friend get his dream of covering the whole Lower East Side in Manhattan, NYC. We just finished putting up our antenna array and repeaters so we have covered what you are about to do. __________________ I'd hit that so hard whoever could pull me out would become King of England!

09-22-2003, 02:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mr Mephisto Of night and light and the half light Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Where beer does flow and men chunder	He's in Ireland. Reread the post. Muller, please ping me offline. I work for a major producer of wireless equipment (both LAN and WAN), and have been involved in many projects exactly like this. Coincidently I'm also Irish, not that that matters, but I thought it was funny. I may be able to offer you some advice. Mr Mephisto __________________ null

09-22-2003, 04:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
muller Rookie Join Date: Sep 2003	We are basically a community development group which is trying to convince the residents of a small town to go on line with a wireless broadband project. We need suggestions as to any devices we could use to convince them and /or ideas about how to hook a strategic partner with cash for the project - in this part of the world (Ireland) All ideas welcome

09-22-2003, 05:13 PM	#11 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Manhattan, NY	guiness ... strategic partner here's what I found from Ireland's area..... http://www.nodedb.com/ireland/ contact some of those node owners. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, Indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Independent, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

09-22-2003, 05:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
yotta Irresponsible Join Date: Apr 2003	Check out the WISP fourm on DSL reports. I actualy work for a WISP, but we provide access at apartment complexes. You should look in to using 5.8 GHz gear. Check out the offerings of trango and proxim. __________________ I am Jack's signature.