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bacon_masta · 09-24-2004, 01:17 PM

a quick reply would be appreciated, i'm in the midst of a suse linux install and i'm not sure if i should go ahead and install kde 3.3, or just forget the gui and stick with the command line. the computer i'm formatting now will hopefully be a webserver very soon, if i can't use a gui i'm just going to set it up to be administered remotely with ssh. thanks for any advice.

bacon_masta · 09-24-2004, 02:05 PM

ssh it is then

SiN · 09-24-2004, 02:26 PM

good decision.

who needs a stinkin gui on a linux box anyways

(ps) bf suggests using twm if you want a window manager.

devnull · 09-24-2004, 02:37 PM

yeah, SSH. this isn't a workstation anyways. just SSH in and do everything via the CLI. If its just a webserver, there's nothing you would do that would require a GUI to be running.

bendsley · 09-24-2004, 02:59 PM

but why the hell use SuSE? Use debian, much nicer, and you get to use aptitude for package installation, because rpm's suck.

pinion · 09-24-2004, 09:01 PM

If for some reason you do need a graphical interface, I'd recommend either Fluxbox or Blackbox. It'll run a hell of a lot better than KDE on a system with that few resources.

twister002 · 09-24-2004, 09:24 PM

XFCE is another good lightweight desktop manager. I still like fluxbox better, but it's a little too minimalistic for some people.

Latch · 09-25-2004, 02:03 AM

You probably don't need a GUI for a webserver (as has been said). Even if you do want to administer it graphically, there are programs out there that use HTML/PHP/etc to administer your computer/services running on it (although I don't know of any names offhand).

Stompy · 09-27-2004, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bendsley

but why the hell use SuSE? Use debian, much nicer, and you get to use aptitude for package installation, because rpm's suck.

Why debian or any packaged installation for that matter

Why not Gentoo? Compile everything yourself and let it scream!

Slower processor? Use distcc! Works like a charm.

bacon_masta · 09-29-2004, 01:16 PM

sorry it took so long to reply, i ended up reformatting the box with slackware. best decision i've ever made. i am having trouble, however, with a brand new keyboard (purchased when a friend spilled beer on another one about a week ago) with the "/" key.

i can't edit important configuration files without being able to use /, since i'm using linux and whatnot, and my googling skills apparently are not up to par, because i can't find the "alt" + "asciicode" to get the symbol to appear. if anyone knows the numeric ascii code, or a resource where i could get a full list of such codes in case of further complications, it would be much appreciated.

**edit** apparently it's not the keyboard, found the ascii code and it doesn't work either, however "shift" + "/" gives a question mark symbol. slackware 9.1, no idea on the mobo, 266mhz proc, 64 mb ram

Fallon · 09-29-2004, 02:04 PM

Pfft, get IceWM. I will only use that on any linux box's I've got now cause it loads faster then...well any other WM I have used.

amokk · 10-01-2004, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stompy

Why debian or any packaged installation for that matter

Why not Gentoo? Compile everything yourself and let it scream!

Slower processor? Use distcc! Works like a charm.

It sure does. I have a p2 350 here that I setup as a file server, my 1.7ghz lappy helped out on the compiling a tonne. It would have taken me 2 weeks to compile everything without the lappy.

devnull · 10-01-2004, 07:21 AM

Can we get back to the fact you don't need a GUI here? Its a webserver, not a workstation. Nothing you do on a webserver will require a WM. Putting a WM on the server will needlessly take up space. How hard is it to move files around, and edit a config file from the command line? It isn't rocket science here.

09-24-2004, 01:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
bacon_masta Psycho Join Date: May 2003 Location: i live in the state of denial	kde 3.3 vs 64 mb ram, 266 mhz processor a quick reply would be appreciated, i'm in the midst of a suse linux install and i'm not sure if i should go ahead and install kde 3.3, or just forget the gui and stick with the command line. the computer i'm formatting now will hopefully be a webserver very soon, if i can't use a gui i'm just going to set it up to be administered remotely with ssh. thanks for any advice.

09-24-2004, 02:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
SiN strangelove Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: ...more here than there...	good decision. who needs a stinkin gui on a linux box anyways (ps) bf suggests using twm if you want a window manager. __________________ - + - ° GiRLie GeeK ° - + - ° 01110010011011110110111101110100001000000110110101100101 Therell be days/When Ill stray/I may appear to be/Constantly out of reach/I give in to sin/Because I like to practise what I preach Last edited by SiN; 09-24-2004 at 02:31 PM.

09-24-2004, 02:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
bendsley Professional Loafer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: texas	but why the hell use SuSE? Use debian, much nicer, and you get to use aptitude for package installation, because rpm's suck. __________________ "You hear the one about the fella who died, went to the pearly gates? St. Peter let him in. Sees a guy in a suit making a closing argument. Says, "Who's that?" St. Peter says, "Oh, that's God. Thinks he's Denny Crane."

09-24-2004, 09:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
pinion Rookie Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kalafornya	If for some reason you do need a graphical interface, I'd recommend either Fluxbox or Blackbox. It'll run a hell of a lot better than KDE on a system with that few resources. __________________ The silent truth asserts it's proof like you abhor.

09-29-2004, 01:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
bacon_masta Psycho Join Date: May 2003 Location: i live in the state of denial	sorry it took so long to reply, i ended up reformatting the box with slackware. best decision i've ever made. i am having trouble, however, with a brand new keyboard (purchased when a friend spilled beer on another one about a week ago) with the "/" key. i can't edit important configuration files without being able to use /, since i'm using linux and whatnot, and my googling skills apparently are not up to par, because i can't find the "alt" + "asciicode" to get the symbol to appear. if anyone knows the numeric ascii code, or a resource where i could get a full list of such codes in case of further complications, it would be much appreciated. edit apparently it's not the keyboard, found the ascii code and it doesn't work either, however "shift" + "/" gives a question mark symbol. slackware 9.1, no idea on the mobo, 266mhz proc, 64 mb ram Last edited by bacon_masta; 09-29-2004 at 01:28 PM.

09-24-2004, 02:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
bacon_masta Psycho Join Date: May 2003 Location: i live in the state of denial	ssh it is then

09-24-2004, 02:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
devnull Crazy Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bit Bucket	yeah, SSH. this isn't a workstation anyways. just SSH in and do everything via the CLI. If its just a webserver, there's nothing you would do that would require a GUI to be running.

09-24-2004, 09:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
twister002 Crazy Join Date: Apr 2003	XFCE is another good lightweight desktop manager. I still like fluxbox better, but it's a little too minimalistic for some people.

09-25-2004, 02:03 AM	#8 (permalink)
Latch In Your Dreams Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: City of Lights	You probably don't need a GUI for a webserver (as has been said). Even if you do want to administer it graphically, there are programs out there that use HTML/PHP/etc to administer your computer/services running on it (although I don't know of any names offhand).

09-29-2004, 02:04 PM	#11 (permalink)
Fallon Junkie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: RI	Pfft, get IceWM. I will only use that on any linux box's I've got now cause it loads faster then...well any other WM I have used.

10-01-2004, 07:21 AM	#13 (permalink)
devnull Crazy Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bit Bucket	Can we get back to the fact you don't need a GUI here? Its a webserver, not a workstation. Nothing you do on a webserver will require a WM. Putting a WM on the server will needlessly take up space. How hard is it to move files around, and edit a config file from the command line? It isn't rocket science here.