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skaven · 06-30-2005, 10:15 AM

I can't believe nobody has posted this yet...

AMD has sued Intel for antitrust violations. Lots of dirty stuff in the 48-page complaint filed in federal district court.

I work for AMD and a lot of the stuff in that complaint is news to me. I always knew Intel played dirty...never knew they were playing this dirty...

guccilvr · 06-30-2005, 10:50 AM

I think AMD has a valid case considering Japan found Intel guilty of violating it's Monopoly Policies. It's going to be interesting to see this saga unfold in the next few months/years.

feelgood · 06-30-2005, 11:48 AM

Man...not another microsoft kind of anti-trust case...

What kind results is AMD looking for if they win?

guccilvr · 06-30-2005, 12:10 PM

they are looking for financial and punitive damages iirc

edit: here's an article on it: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-5765844.html?tag=nl

and here's the reply from the Intel CEO: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-5768789.html

sashime76 · 07-01-2005, 06:55 AM

I've converted to AMD since '88 and haven't looked back. If you can't beat them fair and square, buy your votes - Intel. If there is just one chip maker in the world, then all us PC/Mac users are in trouble.....prices are no longer dictated by competition because there is no competition.

wraithhibn · 07-01-2005, 01:45 PM

AMD just won in Japan, the EU is still investigating, and now this ball starts rolling. This suit will take forever, just like the Microsoft suit. I'm an AMD man, and hope they bring it down on Intel, because AMD definitely has the better product right now.

hrandani · 07-01-2005, 09:15 PM

AMD won me over with Athlon and I've never looked back.

Now macs are moving over to intel...wonderful. Another reason to hate the damn things.

Marvelous Marv · 07-01-2005, 10:59 PM

Wow. It's pretty incongruous to have a fair-trade case argued in Japan.

On the other hand, if there were only one chipmaker for them, PC owners would be in the same boat as Apple owners have been.

sashime76 · 07-05-2005, 05:51 AM

I just showed my support to AMD again by upgrading my aging PC (2 year old...) to AMD 64, 2800+...not the fastest but quite a big step up from the XP 2200+. There Intel!!!!

guccilvr · 07-05-2005, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hrandani

AMD won me over with Athlon and I've never looked back.

Now macs are moving over to intel...wonderful. Another reason to hate the damn things.

I think you'll find the move to Intel well received by mac people.

Anyway, one has to admit that both chip companies make good processors. They both make good products, it's just the execution and business ethics that stink things up. Maybe this will put some smaller chip makers into the market and create more competition.. that would be a great thing.

guccilvr · 07-12-2005, 09:28 AM

Here's a little bit of an update.

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-5...=zdfd.newsfeed

Quote:

update European regulators raided the offices of Intel and a number of PC-related companies early Tuesday as part of an antitrust investigation into the chip giant.

As part of the dawn raid, European Commission officials and national competition authorities from member states descended on several Intel offices, as well as a number of IT companies that manufacture or sell computers, a Commission representative said.

"These inspections are carried out within the framework of an ongoing investigation," the representative said.

An Intel representative said the chipmaker is cooperating fully with investigators.

"Our normal business practice is to cooperate, and we are doing (that) so far in this case," Intel representative Chuck Mulloy told CNET News.com. "We firmly believe that our business practices are fair and lawful."

The morning raid comes less than four months after Intel reached an agreement with Japan's Fair Trade Commission, which required the chip giant to halt the practice of requiring PC makers to limit the use of competitors' chips in exchange for discounts. Intel agreed to abide by the recommendations, though the company stated that it disagreed with the agency's findings and conclusions.

Last year, Japanese officials also conducted a raid on Intel offices and made their findings available to antitrust agencies in other countries. Following Japan's raid, the European Union said it would revisit its antitrust probe into Intel and sent out 64 letters of inquiry to computer makers and retailers.

Also last year, Commission officials said they would investigate the practice of some member states' procurement policies, which restricted computer purchases to only those that used Intel chips.

"Normally, these companies are pissed when their offices are raided, but there is nothing they can do about it," said one source familiar with antitrust issues. "They see what investigators have come up with and what is being accused...before they contact" authorities with an explanation.

In most cases, investigators search through hard-copy documents and computer files, the source noted.

CNET News.com's Michael Singer contributed to this report

Redjake · 07-12-2005, 12:54 PM

Haha. Intel sues AMD for copying their chip, loses, AMD improves the chip and becomes the best chip maker in the world.

AMD turns around and sues Intel. PWN.

06-30-2005, 10:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
skaven Insane Join Date: May 2003 Location: Austin, TX	AMD sues Intel I can't believe nobody has posted this yet... AMD has sued Intel for antitrust violations. Lots of dirty stuff in the 48-page complaint filed in federal district court. I work for AMD and a lot of the stuff in that complaint is news to me. I always knew Intel played dirty...never knew they were playing this dirty...

06-30-2005, 10:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
guccilvr Captain Fucking Emo Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NC USA	I think AMD has a valid case considering Japan found Intel guilty of violating it's Monopoly Policies. It's going to be interesting to see this saga unfold in the next few months/years. __________________ It's no good trying to place your hand where I can't see because I understand you're different than me ~Syd Barrett Have a question about TFP in General? CLICK THIS

06-30-2005, 11:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
feelgood Free Mars! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: I dunno, there's white people around me saying "eh" all the time	Man...not another microsoft kind of anti-trust case... What kind results is AMD looking for if they win? __________________ Looking out the window, that's an act of war. Staring at my shoes, that's an act of war. Committing an act of war? Oh you better believe that's an act of war

06-30-2005, 12:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
guccilvr Captain Fucking Emo Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NC USA	they are looking for financial and punitive damages iirc edit: here's an article on it: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-5765844.html?tag=nl and here's the reply from the Intel CEO: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-5768789.html __________________ It's no good trying to place your hand where I can't see because I understand you're different than me ~Syd Barrett Have a question about TFP in General? CLICK THIS Last edited by guccilvr; 06-30-2005 at 01:32 PM.

07-01-2005, 01:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
wraithhibn Dopefish Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: the 'Ville	AMD just won in Japan, the EU is still investigating, and now this ball starts rolling. This suit will take forever, just like the Microsoft suit. I'm an AMD man, and hope they bring it down on Intel, because AMD definitely has the better product right now. __________________ If you won't dress like the Victoria Secret girls, don't expect us to act like soap opera guys.

07-01-2005, 06:55 AM	#5 (permalink)
sashime76 Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Hoosier State	I've converted to AMD since '88 and haven't looked back. If you can't beat them fair and square, buy your votes - Intel. If there is just one chip maker in the world, then all us PC/Mac users are in trouble.....prices are no longer dictated by competition because there is no competition.

07-01-2005, 09:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
hrandani Insane Join Date: Sep 2004	AMD won me over with Athlon and I've never looked back. Now macs are moving over to intel...wonderful. Another reason to hate the damn things.

07-01-2005, 10:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
Marvelous Marv Cunning Runt Join Date: May 2005 Location: Taking a mulligan	Wow. It's pretty incongruous to have a fair-trade case argued in Japan. On the other hand, if there were only one chipmaker for them, PC owners would be in the same boat as Apple owners have been.

07-05-2005, 05:51 AM	#9 (permalink)
sashime76 Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Hoosier State	I just showed my support to AMD again by upgrading my aging PC (2 year old...) to AMD 64, 2800+...not the fastest but quite a big step up from the XP 2200+. There Intel!!!!

07-12-2005, 12:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Wilson, NC	Haha. Intel sues AMD for copying their chip, loses, AMD improves the chip and becomes the best chip maker in the world. AMD turns around and sues Intel. PWN. __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.