Piston Driven AR, what say you? - Tilted Forum Project - TFP - Sexuality, Philosophy and Political Discussion

ziadel · 10-10-2007, 01:01 AM

Well?

Yea or Nay?

I dont know much about them, someone explain why they're not as accurate...are they bending the receiver ala AK?

MSD · 10-10-2007, 03:34 AM

I think it's as simple as heavier moving parts making a gun less accurate.

Crompsin · 10-10-2007, 08:25 AM

Gas pistons are a necessity on fighting guns.

The shits-itself AR-15 is the can't-catch-up failure.

AR-180 did a damn good job. Made by the same guy that made the AR. Has a piston.

H&K G36 slaps the shit out of ANY AR. Just as accurate at any AR. Has a piston.

...

(picks up AK47, gestures to it like Vanna White)

I'll take reliability over accuracy any day.

Especially in the desert.

...

Fire · 10-10-2007, 09:20 PM

have heard from some ar guys that some of the piston uppers do not work right on certain brands- do lots of research- have no personal insight as I am an AK / sks fan- gimme a bigger round that 62 grains please......

Crompsin · 10-10-2007, 09:51 PM

Bushmaster just came out with a new piston upper.

I wish the H&K 416 would find itself a place in the US for civvies.

MSD · 10-12-2007, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire

have heard from some ar guys that some of the piston uppers do not work right on certain brands- do lots of research- have no personal insight as I am an AK / sks fan- gimme a bigger round that 62 grains please......

When asked to develop a cartridge to compete with the .223 and a rifle to fire it, Mikhail Kalashnikov responded that the AK47 and 7.62x39 were adequate for any battlefield situation the Soviet Union would find itself in. He went on and made the AK74, for which I'm thankful because the '47 is banned here in CT, but I still agree with him.

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Originally Posted by Crompsin

Bushmaster just came out with a new piston upper.

I wish the H&K 416 would find itself a place in the US for civvies.

You think there's a faint hope of a sporting purpose exception or are you ready to smile, nod, and load it up with American parts?

Crompsin · 10-12-2007, 04:22 AM

Oh, American parts, brother... I'm not THAT hopeful.

The 416 and 417 REALLY turn me on. The 417 especially. Unga-BUNGA!

ziadel · 10-12-2007, 05:27 PM

The 417 does look nice now that they've got a hold open on there.

I still want a freaking paddle release for the mags tho. In addition to the usual side mounted button release would be great as well. Its a small thing to ask really.

Lakerman · 10-14-2007, 09:32 PM

I can't remember the URL, but I saw a video on youtube about a piston'd AR-15. The guy was going on and on about the benefits and he proceeded to rattle off a full magazine and then handed the rifle over to some people. They remarked how cool the receiver was to the touch... and how clean the bolt carrier assembly was. I too would be interested to know how the piston uppers affect accuracy.

Crompsin · 10-14-2007, 09:47 PM

That would the Heckler & Koch 416 video. Or the G36 video from the late '90s.

10-10-2007, 01:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
ziadel Myrmidon Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: In the twilight and mist.	Piston Driven AR, what say you? Well? Yea or Nay? I dont know much about them, someone explain why they're not as accurate...are they bending the receiver ala AK? __________________ Ron Paul '08 Vote for Freedom Go ahead and google Dr. Ron Paul. You'll like what you read.

10-10-2007, 08:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
Crompsin STRIKE FACE Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Prime Self	Gas pistons are a necessity on fighting guns. The shits-itself AR-15 is the can't-catch-up failure. AR-180 did a damn good job. Made by the same guy that made the AR. Has a piston. H&K G36 slaps the shit out of ANY AR. Just as accurate at any AR. Has a piston. ... (picks up AK47, gestures to it like Vanna White) I'll take reliability over accuracy any day. Especially in the desert. ... __________________ C19H28O2 = C6H2(NO2)3CH3 All your base are belong to us. Last edited by Crompsin; 10-10-2007 at 08:28 AM.

10-10-2007, 09:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
Fire Warrior Smith Join Date: May 2003 Location: missouri	have heard from some ar guys that some of the piston uppers do not work right on certain brands- do lots of research- have no personal insight as I am an AK / sks fan- gimme a bigger round that 62 grains please...... __________________ Thought the harder, Heart the bolder, Mood the more as our might lessens

10-10-2007, 09:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
Crompsin STRIKE FACE Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Prime Self	Bushmaster just came out with a new piston upper. I wish the H&K 416 would find itself a place in the US for civvies. __________________ C19H28O2 = C6H2(NO2)3CH3 All your base are belong to us.

10-12-2007, 04:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
Crompsin STRIKE FACE Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Prime Self	Oh, American parts, brother... I'm not THAT hopeful. The 416 and 417 REALLY turn me on. The 417 especially. Unga-BUNGA! __________________ C19H28O2 = C6H2(NO2)3CH3 All your base are belong to us.

10-10-2007, 03:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
MSD Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: CT	I think it's as simple as heavier moving parts making a gun less accurate.

10-12-2007, 05:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
ziadel Myrmidon Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: In the twilight and mist.	The 417 does look nice now that they've got a hold open on there. I still want a freaking paddle release for the mags tho. In addition to the usual side mounted button release would be great as well. Its a small thing to ask really. __________________ Ron Paul '08 Vote for Freedom Go ahead and google Dr. Ron Paul. You'll like what you read.

10-14-2007, 09:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
Lakerman Upright Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Texas	I can't remember the URL, but I saw a video on youtube about a piston'd AR-15. The guy was going on and on about the benefits and he proceeded to rattle off a full magazine and then handed the rifle over to some people. They remarked how cool the receiver was to the touch... and how clean the bolt carrier assembly was. I too would be interested to know how the piston uppers affect accuracy.

10-14-2007, 09:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
Crompsin STRIKE FACE Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Prime Self	That would the Heckler & Koch 416 video. Or the G36 video from the late '90s. __________________ C19H28O2 = C6H2(NO2)3CH3 All your base are belong to us.